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so

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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome

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back uh today uh we're going to have a

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special guest cal korff

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you've heard him mention we've all heard

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him mention a few different times on

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different broadcasts

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about this incredible software that he

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had developed for ufo research

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you know i don't know very much about it

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but from the screenshots and things that

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i've seen

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it looks pretty exciting and looks like

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a valuable tool that we could all use

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uh in our research efforts

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so without further ado uh let's bring

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kalkworth

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in there he is hey

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hey stephen how you doing better

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good good how you doing mr corp i've

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been up all night

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getting stuff ready for your show got a

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lot of stuff to go over

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so um great let's get into it

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um i've prepared a bunch of slides that

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go through things

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and uh basically i've divided everything

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up into three parts

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maybe four depending on how your

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thinking goes real quickly

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i want to recap some background

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historical stuff united around the theme

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real history matters because it does

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and remind especially the younger

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generation of things they don't know

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because a lot of people who are

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putting fake and phony deceptive stuff

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out there just aren't telling you the

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truth

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they don't imagine that imagine that

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yeah

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then um of course i'll go into the

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software announce who

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are our first round partners you're of

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course one of them

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the idea is to get the software out

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there it's going to be free for

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everybody i want to emphasize that

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and the idea is to beat it up and test

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it in the real world conditions and

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and work together to come up with a

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standard that's going to raise

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the standards of this field and then the

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other part i prepared is a

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i'm sorry to be blunt about this a very

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devastating expose against phony

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doctor kevin randall and i'll get into

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that as well

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so anyway let's get into it can you see

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on my screen

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um the slides you can share your screen

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you know there's a share screen button

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because i'm on a different program that

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shares too so i want to make sure that

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it's the same thing screen sharing okay

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fine there'll be a button right in the

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center at the bottom that says share

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and then you can choose application or

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whatever that you want to share

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he says cal is not messing around he

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busts out the black turtleneck he means

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business tonight

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actually i grabbed the wrong shirt um

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i have i i wear a lot of black and dark

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i have no fashion sense you can tell by

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the way i dress i listen i

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learned a long time ago that if you just

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wear black clothes 10 years later in

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pictures nobody's gonna say

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that you were out of fashion or that you

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wearing stupid [\h__\h] because it was in

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fashion you know

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yeah exactly now i'm getting a message

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that chrome wants to

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record my screen yeah

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just say allow yeah so

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put it in there give it permission since

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there we go michael says this is going

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interesting i agree oh

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we lost you

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we somehow lost mr korff uh i don't know

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how that happened mr corp

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uh you probably need to drop back in uh

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and we'll see if we can't get this thing

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working i didn't think that maybe you

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should have just sent me the slides

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oh it had it had to quit and reboot

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you haven't given apple the secret code

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uh yet from your altos operating system

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so anyway i don't know what's going on

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now i'm excited over your uh projects

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it's a miracle that we're running this

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yeah much work i had to do under the

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hood to make sure this thing worked

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reliably but it's working as or better

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on windows so everything yeah i see a

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third i see it

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now i see this okay so you can see it

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what we're doing let's start with some

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what we're doing is these are the books

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books in the middle are ready to go it's

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just that the number one priority is the

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book on donald trump for obvious reasons

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which is relevant to the software and

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it is this mindset that we have as a

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and i've talked about this on your show

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i have a few of them here from that

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where scientific studies have shown

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and proven that american culture is

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predisposed to believing in conspiracies

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half the country believes in a various

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form or another to whatever degree that

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rigged so out of concern for separating

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fact from fiction which is what i've

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ever since october 19 1973 and i

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remember that date clearly

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uh i felt i had to jump in and and

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do these books because what the books do

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is they separate fact from fiction so

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conspiracies and they are destroyed

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they are fully sourced the idea is to do

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someone still lies or denies it it's

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obvious to everyone that they are a

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denier you know people say you can't

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make a horse drink water that's never

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it's very true we must never ever

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allow the truth to be ignored

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that is not right that holds

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human progress back so again these are

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they were connected to the internet etc

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all of that wasn't true the next book

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the hillary clinton book

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this is the second series in the real

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american politics one

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remember the previous election she

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fair and square and that donald trump

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people didn't want her to be president

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well she had this fake study that she

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her super pac about voter fraud in

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wisconsin and it's not true

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it is a deliberate lie so that's exposed

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and then the third one about al gore

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that's relevant because i'd written that

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the agenda 21 u.n globalization push is

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back on again folks yay

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and then of course al gore is in there

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making false claims to help justify that

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and the case unless weren't they uh

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weren't all the uh glaciers in

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change but i think that

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and it phases and things so i never

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environmental guy though i really am

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like we recycle i try to not be a jerk

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you know but jeez that guy went

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way out on a limb he he did and i want

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to be clear because again this issue is

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issues they're passionate about right or

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give a hoot you know and i try to remind

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the young people

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that it's that simple if you don't

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pollute you don't have a problem

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and i hate pollution of course and i've

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lived in i always don't

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environmental uh

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destruction are really not based on

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individuals they're based on the

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corporations they do far more damage

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than an individual

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but stephen individuals you're right

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corporations can't do [\h__\h] neither can

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political parties without people

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so it's people yeah i'll give you that

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yeah so anyway that's what these books

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are about and it is out of concern

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for helping to fight back against some

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of this polarization i've covered these

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issues many times as a journalist

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overseas for years

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so for ufo people they don't know this

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whatever it's fine

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but anyway these are yeah i was kind of

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surprised to see all those those

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newspapers that you wrote for that and i

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never knew that you did that i

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only know you from the ufo book so

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people may be surprised to learn that

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cal is actually written in a lot of

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different newspapers uh editorials and

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articles and

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fact-based research stuff on politics i

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was surprised about that

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covered that stuff yeah i cover a lot of

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areas i always have

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and i'll get into some of that in a bit

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here because it is relevant to

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the software all of this is related i've

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always believed ever since i understood

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at a very young

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age in primary school that life is one

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big relational database

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so um regarding more books coming out

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these are in the pipeline now

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they will be out in february uh and

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march

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um i've talked to you and melissa about

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adding an update of what mikey horn did

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we can just add that to the book for our

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project

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and then um multimedia elements are

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being added to these books so what

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you'll be able to do folks is you'll be

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able to point your camera at them on

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certain pages

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and interesting things will happen i'll

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just say that

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and then of course the annie jacobson

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book is being updated uh to add more

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stuff that

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destroys her story other stuff coming

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out again

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this is the next book coming out in the

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pipeline and this is relevant again to

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the software today because

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the person who i hope will help me with

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this book if not i'll

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be the sole author on the title but i've

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talked to her about doing it together

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is the wonderful erica whit and erica

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luke's is a

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ufo researcher who recently received an

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archive

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of the late researcher and druffle

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and ruffle was a friend of mine she

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studied this case here the heflin case

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that's why this book is about it and

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this book solves that case

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the purpose of every volume of this as

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you know stephen

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is to solve a case and move on take it

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or leave it whatever the truth is we go

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with it

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so you will not only see how heflin

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faked his photos his confession is in

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there

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and the book consists of archival

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material that both erica have

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and i have because stanton friedman is

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the one who put me on this case

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and that's in there too proven to solve

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it one way or another because what

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happened is people picked whatever side

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they wanted to believe

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which again is you fooligy it's not

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ufology

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so that's i think that's an interesting

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case especially because i know that he

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i had heard that he admitted to faking

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them he did there's there's a lot of

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these

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there were some pretty credible image

360
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analysts that looked at it and said it

361
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couldn't be a model or a small thing

362
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it was 30 feet wide and they must have

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been totally wrong in their analysis

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no in fact and and this is proven in the

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book the woods

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who endorse the fake mj12 files they

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misled

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and ruffle that's disgusting secondly

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the analysts who were credible uh

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said there were only two possibilities

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for the photo either was a large object

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far away or it was a small object very

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close to the camera

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what we discovered i discovered it was

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that there was a close-up

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lens for his polaroid camera and that

377
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the last photo which was suspected of

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not even being taken that same day

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was actually the first photo he took and

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that gave him the idea right let's take

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it

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in our new

383
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intro there's a newspaper article about

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that case

385
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that says yeah that says like first

386
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first

387
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genuine finely genuine photo of flying

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saucer and it has the picture

389
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so yeah but again heflin called us he

390
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called bob kivet

391
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kivia called me he wanted money he

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needed

393
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bills for his medical expenses to

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explain to everything he did and it was

395
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i who told bob kiviat when he asked me

396
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what to do

397
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i said don't pay him anything we cannot

398
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reward fraud i feel sorry for his health

399
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condition

400
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it's irrelevant to the case but we're

401
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not going to pay him 5 000 bucks

402
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just because he's now telling the truth

403
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no

404
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this is the first of

405
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four that destroy phony dr kevin randall

406
00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,199
and being blunt is this book on the

407
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right here

408
00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:51,759
the roswell here we go

409
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no no this this is this is i'm sorry i'm

410
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going to be very listen

411
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i get it but you understand that as a

412
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show this puts me

413
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this back and forth between the two is

414
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putting me in a very difficult position

415
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,199
and i want to be like

416
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as diplomatic as possible and let you

417
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:06,480
both speak

418
00:16:10,629 --> 00:16:09,519
but yeah stephen you're fine you're

419
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,639
doing a great job

420
00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:12,720
uh you know talking to both of us i'm

421
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:14,160
glad that kevin randle

422
00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:16,320
is finally addressing some of this i

423
00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:18,000
just hope he doesn't continue to deduct

424
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:20,800
me 15 years or so to debate because

425
00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:24,000
he lied to you about saying i never

426
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:24,880
showed up

427
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,040
and i'll prove that i've got images uh

428
00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:29,279
relevant to that that prove i was there

429
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,399
and i'll tell you the full story you

430
00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:32,160
know what though just just just so that

431
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our audience is aware that you guys were

432
00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:35,440
supposed to debate years ago about the

433
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:37,440
case and then that didn't happen

434
00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:39,839
and then uh you know i haven't asked him

435
00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:41,279
if he would come and do it here but

436
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,800
you're saying that you would if you'd be

437
00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:45,040
willing

438
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:48,839
to because i can talk to him i'll try to

439
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yeah

440
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:53,839
because i account for all this because i

441
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,560
i did

442
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,480
catch some of what he said not all of it

443
00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:58,240
because i was at work

444
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,680
but of what i found um well i'll get to

445
00:17:04,870 --> 00:17:03,120
that in the presentation here

446
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:04,880
anyway the book on the right here is

447
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,360
important because i was the first person

448
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:09,600
literally nobody else

449
00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:12,799
who solved the debris photo issue

450
00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:15,120
and the ramy memo deciphering it so i

451
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,400
have to shake my head

452
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,799
when i hear phony doctor kevin randall

453
00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:20,720
and dave rudiak talk about

454
00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:22,959
getting down to the molecular level even

455
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,160
though that's not true

456
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,919
well there's no but just to be clear

457
00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:27,679
though like i did look into his

458
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:29,919
education and the man has four degrees

459
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:33,120
one of them is from a online university

460
00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:34,480
but i called and checked with that

461
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,240
university and they're accredited

462
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:38,160
by the united states and if you get a

463
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:40,160
doctorate degree from that university

464
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:42,240
it's acceptable for employment

465
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,200
with the government with the military so

466
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,640
i think it's a bit unfair calling him

467
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:48,000
phony doctor

468
00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:50,000
to real degree you might not like that

469
00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:51,760
he went to an online school to get it

470
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:52,640
but it's a real

471
00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,600
credit it is not and it is not and

472
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,360
stanton friedman and i proved it

473
00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:59,360
these reports are a matter of public

474
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,280
record stephen

475
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,200
here's what happened the university that

476
00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,960
he got his degree from

477
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:07,120
was a correspondent school it was on

478
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probation

479
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:10,080
and it was getting its accreditation

480
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:11,120
removed

481
00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:14,080
that's a matter of public record after

482
00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:14,559
they were

483
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:17,120
read the riot act randall got his degree

484
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:18,080
when they were not

485
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:20,559
legit and then they switched over to

486
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:22,559
being completely legit

487
00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:25,039
in fact i was going to roll in that

488
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:33,270
and there's articles i can send you that

489
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:34,640
were published at the time

490
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:37,760
talking about them have not been

491
00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:38,240
credible

492
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:40,080
had nothing to do with randall because

493
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i'll tell you what started this

494
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:42,000
investigation

495
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:44,799
into his claims of having a phd first of

496
00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:45,440
all

497
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,760
i know what it takes to get a phd

498
00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:50,080
anybody who has grown up with scientists

499
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,200
would

500
00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:53,440
most people don't usually have to make a

501
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:55,760
original discovery that is peer reviewed

502
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:57,520
and verified it's how

503
00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:59,919
the body of human knowledge progresses

504
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:01,600
so when i heard that randall

505
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:04,400
had a phd i'm like well how can i square

506
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:05,120
any such

507
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:06,720
theoretical breakthrough in whatever

508
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,720
subject phds are wonderful

509
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:10,880
doesn't matter who gets them with what

510
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,799
he writes the crap about roswell where

511
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,080
he blatantly lies and

512
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:16,559
i'm going to prove it here in this thing

513
00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:17,200
here

514
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,880
i i couldn't swear the two so i called

515
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:20,640
friedman i said are you aware that

516
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:21,600
randall's getting

517
00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:23,600
got a phd apparently and stan and i

518
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,120
discussed it i'm going to show you some

519
00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:27,120
of those documents here in a moment

520
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,679
and we both called that university and i

521
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:30,960
said i'll tell you what stan

522
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,960
i found out this and it's in the paper

523
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,559
here about them in probation

524
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:36,000
i'm going to enroll in the school and

525
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:39,039
get a phd as well and then i can say i

526
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:39,919
got one and

527
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:42,080
we'll take them out that way but i never

528
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:44,080
did because i left the bay area i moved

529
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,600
up and went to work at boeing

530
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:47,360
and then i also decided i'm not going to

531
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:49,120
pay money to get a fake degree there's

532
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,760
no point

533
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:52,240
and as the newspaper articles at that

534
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:53,520
time prove

535
00:19:58,870 --> 00:19:56,720
this university to its credit decided to

536
00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:58,880
clean its act up and become legit

537
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,679
if if he started again today that's the

538
00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:03,600
key caveat folks which he doesn't tell

539
00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,640
you

540
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,320
uh it would be straight up legit there

541
00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:08,320
would be no issue but that is not what

542
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:09,520
happened at the time

543
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,880
it reminds me of dr marcel vogel dr

544
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:15,520
marcel vogel got his phd even though he

545
00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:16,720
worked at ibm

546
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,679
from the university of metaphysics

547
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:24,240
so that ends that back to the book here

548
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:25,679
and this is what's important it doesn't

549
00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,280
matter about randall

550
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:29,200
this book solves the debris issue it

551
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,960
proves there was never a debris switch

552
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,720
if there was never a debris switch

553
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,480
the whole narrative of roswell has

554
00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:36,159
changed the reason this book is

555
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:37,280
important is because

556
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:40,640
i have the original photos that major

557
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,360
marcel

558
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,520
signed off on that bill moore gave me we

559
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:45,120
showed them to the media in a press

560
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:46,480
event that has never appeared on the

561
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:47,120
internet

562
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:50,799
back in 1981

563
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,840
didn't exist had yet to be invented so

564
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,919
we went through all of this i went to

565
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,600
stanton i said stanton we've got a

566
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,760
problem i read in basically the riot act

567
00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:01,440
the equivalent of houston we've got a

568
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:02,559
problem no stan

569
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:05,760
you've got a problem something that

570
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:08,559
isn't really what it has been hyped to

571
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:09,200
be

572
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,200
stanton friedman myself bill moore

573
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,840
and why i ended up gravitating more

574
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,480
towards

575
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:18,320
more and distance myself from friedman

576
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,400
because of these two books here

577
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,480
and i can prove all of this these two

578
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,520
books change

579
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:25,760
the ufo narrative because the book on

580
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:28,159
the left the zeta reticuli conspiracy

581
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,240
it solves the hill case like nobody else

582
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:32,559
has you will point your camera at this

583
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,520
book folks

584
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:36,240
and up will appear rising up off the

585
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:37,280
pages

586
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:40,400
a artificial or augmented reality

587
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:43,600
star map that shows the real

588
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:46,640
hill map as it exists in space

589
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:50,159
versus what the ufo numbers i don't have

590
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,280
about numbers no now when i'm saying

591
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,559
nutters these are people who

592
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:56,559
deliberately ignore the data friedman

593
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:57,120
was

594
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,159
i i like i like data and i like to uh

595
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:02,000
i'd like to be able to definitively

596
00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:03,679
prove with data something is

597
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:05,760
accurate or not accurate and i would

598
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:07,120
agree with you

599
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:10,320
i uh i did my own sort of deep dive into

600
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:11,039
this uh

601
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:14,559
map and uh i went to many

602
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,760
learned astrophysicists and astronomers

603
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:19,840
and uh they all agree with your

604
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,799
assessment that that the original

605
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,880
the original story that the map was

606
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:26,080
genuine uh

607
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:30,080
was basically falsely it doesn't match

608
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:30,480
up

609
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:34,400
all of the stuff about aliens coming

610
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,679
from zeta reticuli

611
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,280
really did originate with the barney and

612
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,360
betty hill case in that star map

613
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,679
and then it turns out that that star map

614
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:43,120
does not

615
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:46,240
show zeta reticuli star system at all

616
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,960
exactly and i'm the only person who ran

617
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,159
the trap

618
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,200
between bob schaefer phil class charles

619
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,360
zatterberg marjorie fish betty hill

620
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:57,760
everybody to see who was right because i

621
00:23:03,510 --> 00:22:58,799
told stan

622
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,520
i just written a 216 page report on ufos

623
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,799
for my teacher

624
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,320
and i went to bat for the hill case

625
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,480
because that was the astronomical data

626
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:10,720
that was valid at the time but then more

627
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:12,640
accurate astronomical data came out

628
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:14,480
years later it wasn't her fault she did

629
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,159
the best with what she could

630
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,000
but it is stan friedman's fault that he

631
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:19,440
didn't get with the truth

632
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,120
so i spent a year corresponding with

633
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,360
astronomer atterberg every day throwing

634
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,960
everything at him running back and forth

635
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,000
between friedman

636
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:30,400
everybody and the documents are all

637
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:31,520
there okay

638
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,280
and if you look here people are being

639
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:35,760
manipulated look here on the left and by

640
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:37,039
the way this previous slide is the

641
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:38,640
original atterberg file

642
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,960
which is published in the new book case

643
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,679
closed

644
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,360
now if you look at the original book

645
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:45,039
here the interrupted journey by john

646
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,840
fuller

647
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,760
you can see that this of course was the

648
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,760
original account of the incident they

649
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,279
glossed on the star map

650
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,720
but look at what the publishers are

651
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,200
doing here it says here on the left

652
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,960
the two lost hours aboard a flying

653
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,240
saucer in quotes

654
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,559
to anyone with an iq over 10 that means

655
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,720
it's a claim it's not a fact

656
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,799
okay then it says the strangest story of

657
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,400
our lifetime blah blah

658
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:07,919
but look at friedman's book in the

659
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,240
hyperbole the true story of the world's

660
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,480
first documented alien abduction

661
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,880
really well first of all it isn't true

662
00:24:17,909 --> 00:24:16,240
secondly

663
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:17,919
it we can't prove it was the first

664
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,559
documented alien abduction because

665
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,320
we don't know when aliens have abducted

666
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,320
anybody it could have been done

667
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,840
yeah could be right about that yeah they

668
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:27,679
could be abducting cavemen we don't know

669
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:28,080
right

670
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:34,559
now here's the thing in the interrupted

671
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,880
journey again you got this emphasis here

672
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:37,919
and this hype

673
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,000
okay and you notice that stanton has

674
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:42,000
written this with betty hill's niece

675
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,480
big deal betty hill was a paranormal nut

676
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,799
she talked to ufos all the time

677
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,440
i confronted stan about that he said oh

678
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,880
no she's lost it now but she was

679
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,159
credible back then

680
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,799
oh really okay stan whatever okay so

681
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,640
here's someone who's defense maybe she

682
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:58,480
got deeper and deeper in because i know

683
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,520
many people

684
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,440
that when they start the rabbit hole of

685
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,760
ufos and watching documentaries and

686
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,120
reading books they're

687
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,679
they're still you know they got they got

688
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:09,600
one leg in reality and one leg

689
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,080
into this mythology but it seems to me

690
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,240
that the longer someone spends reading

691
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,919
the books and the documentaries and

692
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:17,760
going to conferences and listening to

693
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:18,400
lectures

694
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,720
they get worse and worse into the woo

695
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,600
side

696
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,360
right yeah i mean it's a possibility

697
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:25,120
that she was a little more credible when

698
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:26,720
he knew her and then she went full-on

699
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,000
ufo nutter as you would say later right

700
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,240
she was more credible meaning she wasn't

701
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:34,000
surrounding herself with yes

702
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:36,960
people and and conspiracy nuts and

703
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:38,799
cosmic watergate types

704
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:42,159
but it became a very bad feedback loop

705
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,440
she used to send me her images of ufos

706
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,320
and i'm sorry she not only i mean come

707
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,159
on train lights and things like that

708
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:52,320
it was really bad i felt bad for her she

709
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,600
wasn't

710
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,440
yeah i got a friend that sends me these

711
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,360
pictures that are horrible and just show

712
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,600
a little light spec up in the sky

713
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,520
and he swears their ufos and he's been

714
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,720
doing he's been sending them

715
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,880
to me for years and i'm always like get

716
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,960
a telephoto lens or something bro

717
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,760
because that could be

718
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,360
anything that could be a plane a

719
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,960
helicopter a

720
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,559
you know it could be a cell phone tower

721
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,080
with a light on the top lincoln

722
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,320
i don't know yeah some people just too

723
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,320
much want to believe

724
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:21,279
so the the entire file because back then

725
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,640
there was no internet i had to type

726
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,240
these letters up on my smith corona

727
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,559
typewriter using my two fingers as i do

728
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,480
goddamn your old cow core if you are

729
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:30,720
using typewriter bro my dad had a

730
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,600
typewriter

731
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,480
yeah i should have had an image to

732
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,760
explain to young people what a

733
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,880
typewriter is yeah

734
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,360
yeah maybe i just remember my dad he

735
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:41,120
hated it and it would take him like four

736
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,480
days to write a letter

737
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,159
because he had it it had to be perfect

738
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,559
when he was done typing it you know

739
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,880
get the white out do it again go down

740
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:49,760
the corner where

741
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:52,960
somebody had a xerox and fix it

742
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,080
paste stuff in god we have it easy now

743
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:58,320
we don't have to do anything absolutely

744
00:27:00,630 --> 00:27:00,159
and i'm old enough where i was there in

745
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:00,640
the

746
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,520
everything

747
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,039
wrote software and other things like

748
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,120
that so i've seen the whole cycle

749
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,799
used to start my first company i formed

750
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,000
was a graphic arts company called

751
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,919
spectrographics fremont

752
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,520
and we used to do it the old-fashioned

753
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,039
way i remember the first lesson

754
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:23,120
real quickly that i had delivering to

755
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,080
clients

756
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,399
master final artwork for newsletters i

757
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,240
was printing for them and designing

758
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,880
i forgot about basic physics meaning i

759
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:32,159
left the uh

760
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:33,840
paste up boards in the back of the car

761
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,360
it was warm the wax melted

762
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,279
when i told the customer they slid off

763
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,960
it was like i'm so sorry

764
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,720
so i went to spray mount but you know

765
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,320
now it's all electronic

766
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:47,120
anyway the book again proves using

767
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:47,760
modern

768
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:51,039
astronomical data from space orbital

769
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:52,559
instruments that measured the stars the

770
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,880
most accurate to date it corrects all

771
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,480
this stuff it also shows a stanton

772
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,480
friedman new it proves he knew

773
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:59,760
that's why there's these original

774
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,320
letters that it was never true

775
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,159
it's just he refused to acknowledge it

776
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,480
and that's on him i'm sorry to say

777
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,000
and i warned him i was going to publish

778
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:09,760
this when i got back to the u.s and of

779
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,559
course

780
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,559
uh i did come back and then he passed

781
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:14,000
away all right

782
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:15,679
this is what i'm trying to stop here

783
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,760
exploitation and the attempted

784
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,760
continuous rewriting of history for the

785
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,640
worse

786
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:22,720
you have another ufo nut or butter

787
00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:24,880
conspiracy producer out there

788
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,960
bryce zabel mr mj-12 friedmanite

789
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:31,120
friedman fanboy he's of course the main

790
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,480
guy trying to get this thing done and

791
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,000
that's why we started this project in

792
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:36,159
india the zeta reticuli conspiracy years

793
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:36,799
ago

794
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:39,440
and i warned stan um you know you're

795
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,799
going to hear footsteps and he knew what

796
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:42,000
was coming

797
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:43,919
all right so anyway that's all uh

798
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,720
happening and why that book is relevant

799
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,880
what else is next here oh yeah and this

800
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:50,559
is a reminder for the young people and

801
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,039
even

802
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,159
uh phony dr kevin randall uh again

803
00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,919
the media captured this is a san

804
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:58,240
francisco examiner it's a slightly big

805
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,279
newspaper

806
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:01,840
it captured this shocked moment on my

807
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,720
face

808
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,200
when friedman is at my house promoting

809
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:07,440
roswell and ufos are real

810
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:09,200
and he's starting to talk about how the

811
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,840
space shuttle is going to bring down the

812
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,200
ufos because we're going up there now

813
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:14,720
and because we're

814
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,720
immature and we're not a member of the

815
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,640
federation and we have nuclear weapons

816
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:22,480
and our favorite pastime is tribal

817
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:23,360
warfare

818
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,440
you know his usual sound bites and i'm

819
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,120
like do you really think so in the media

820
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,039
there was more than one reporter

821
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,039
documented this and they noted that i

822
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:32,960
was different they said here for example

823
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:35,360
korff who was acquired says sober gets

824
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,880
his brain and einstein from kennedy

825
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:37,760
classmates

826
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,000
drafted an atomic bomb design as part of

827
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:42,159
any eighth grade project yes i did i

828
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:43,760
actually won the science contest over

829
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:44,480
that

830
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:47,679
and then it talks about how i happened

831
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,480
to start this in 73 i masked over 1500

832
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:52,399
photos traded with wendell and things

833
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,360
like that

834
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,360
then down here i say where i give

835
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,600
lectures i usually notice a few

836
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,600
have puzzled looks that they just can't

837
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,360
believe this kid is a speaker they paid

838
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,440
to see he says but after that initial

839
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:05,200
reaction there's really no problem

840
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,120
that's true i remember walking on stage

841
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,799
as a kid and people looking around like

842
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,399
why is this kid taking the stage

843
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:12,960
and then i'd introduce myself and start

844
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,600
talking

845
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,960
you know and give them their two dollars

846
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,200
worth that's what ticatron used to sell

847
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,120
the tickets for

848
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:21,679
autumn yeah i remember yeah good old

849
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:23,440
ticketron and i'd give all the money to

850
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:23,919
my

851
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,960
class i didn't want to wash cars and

852
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,720
sell light bulbs you know i didn't mind

853
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,159
watching cars if the hot girls were

854
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:32,159
there in the shorts you know from school

855
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,200
but other than that i told

856
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,919
the president fred davis i said uh how

857
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:39,360
about i do lectures for you guys and

858
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,559
i'll just give you all the money

859
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:42,799
people eating this stuff up so like okay

860
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:44,240
fine and that's what i did for a couple

861
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,279
years

862
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:47,200
it's even in the yearbooks okay so the

863
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,799
last item down here and this is still

864
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,080
true today

865
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,440
um this ufo research is just what i do i

866
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:55,440
just think it's a tremendous crime that

867
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,640
people think one's career and

868
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,320
contribution to society

869
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,960
doesn't begin until you're 18 it begins

870
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,320
when you're born

871
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,279
he want he waxes philosophical when

872
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,120
queried about his goals quote i just

873
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,039
want to help man think of himself as

874
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:11,600
man not as a russian or an american or

875
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,559
chinese

876
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:15,279
think of the whole planet not of a

877
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:15,760
nation

878
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,080
if we do that we won't blow ourselves up

879
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,760
i still feel the same way

880
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,840
i'm not going to apologize for the fact

881
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,559
that i've always felt this way

882
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:27,039
all right so again that look is precious

883
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:28,000
and i got a lot of

884
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,200
wow look at you man look at you 70s with

885
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,360
the butterfly collar and everything bro

886
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,120
yeah i invited him over to lecture with

887
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,720
me we had a press conference i arranged

888
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:38,640
the whole thing

889
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,519
you know about uh the ufo's a real movie

890
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,120
about wendell that he didn't want the

891
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,200
meyer segment in there everything

892
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:47,440
so again the media actually i actually

893
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:49,200
got letters from the skeptics

894
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,880
pointing out that this was a rare moment

895
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:52,720
that the media actually captured

896
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,600
uh houston we've got a problem moment so

897
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,200
this press conference and getting to

898
00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:59,039
know stan in lecture with him

899
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,000
in high school caused problems because i

900
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,080
was inventing a system called ufo comp

901
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,000
which i'll talk about in a few minutes

902
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,240
to be his archivist i was stanton's

903
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:10,240
original archivist when he lived

904
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:13,120
in union city near me i lived two blocks

905
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,000
above him

906
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:16,000
before he moved to canada oh that's

907
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:18,240
interesting now this was the original

908
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,519
ufo comp

909
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,000
uh log because we had no computers we

910
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:23,440
had index cards

911
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,039
we had hand entries and we filed

912
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,880
and what i would do is i would write

913
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,640
them in ancient

914
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:33,360
uh foreign scripts because i took seven

915
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,399
languages

916
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:37,519
in my freshman year sorry kevin randle

917
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,000
and uh i went ahead and uh needed to

918
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:42,080
practice them so i wrote them in german

919
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,519
citadel in script which you see here

920
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,799
that's my writing

921
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,320
it's not that i have neat writing but to

922
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,240
read citrulline script you have to

923
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,919
clean it up a bit and now of course

924
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:51,279
those fonts are available

925
00:32:56,870 --> 00:32:54,799
uh digitally and the reason i mention

926
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:56,880
this is because this is my original

927
00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:00,159
um master index book here in fact i have

928
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:01,919
it right here

929
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,120
okay and it's again uh

930
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:07,360
decades old and all kinds of nice stuff

931
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,399
in here

932
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,880
but it's got people listed a through z

933
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,039
and i knew everyone in the ufo field

934
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,960
but there's one name there stephen that

935
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:16,159
isn't in there

936
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:19,120
kevin randle and the reason kevin randle

937
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,720
was not in my book and

938
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,640
among the 45 scientists that i

939
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,399
corresponded with including heineken

940
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,080
friedman and everybody else

941
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,640
is because even as a kid i saw problems

942
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,159
with kevin randle

943
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:32,159
kevin randle at that time was from cedar

944
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:33,200
rapids iowa

945
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,159
so are my parents i ran the trap on him

946
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,080
easy because i still have relatives

947
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:40,080
there i was married back in iowa years

948
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,399
ago again when it came back to the us

949
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,120
then went back to india cedar rapids is

950
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,720
where my heritage is from

951
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:49,360
small world so i knew all about randall

952
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,480
but he didn't know i

953
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,279
knew about him so i pretty much avoided

954
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:54,960
him until

955
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:57,360
i contacted stan friedman after he

956
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,399
started getting

957
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,320
you know this roswell nonsense i said

958
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,320
stan can you believe

959
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,640
the nerve of this guy he's just pulling

960
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:06,559
[\h__\h] out of his ass and making it up i'm

961
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,360
sorry

962
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,440
well that's when stanton contacted me

963
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:11,280
and said oh long time no here i'll show

964
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:12,879
you those letters in a moment and

965
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,919
let's get him okay so the big problem i

966
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:17,040
have with randall

967
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:19,520
is i'm sorry he doesn't seem to

968
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:21,040
understand basic english and it's not

969
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:22,079
just randall

970
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,800
again the word debunker he calls me a

971
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:26,639
debunker means to separate fact from

972
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,359
fiction

973
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,119
but that's not what randall says randall

974
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:31,119
says to bunkers have a closed mind

975
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:33,280
he is simply aping what stan friedman

976
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,320
made up friedman

977
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,480
invented that in fact the first meeting

978
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,879
freeman and i ever had in may of 1975

979
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:40,399
when i went to interview him

980
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,919
for my teacher as a kid he explained i

981
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,599
had mispronounced the word

982
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:48,320
ufology i said ufo ology because of

983
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,200
course there's

984
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,480
an acronym it's not a word it's ufo

985
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,639
right three words unidentified flying

986
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,399
objects he says no it's you foolish

987
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:59,040
or ufology i said okay and then he tells

988
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,560
me there's also eufooligy

989
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,680
and he explained the difference

990
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:03,760
eufooligy is when you say things about

991
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:05,680
ufos which are not derivable from

992
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,640
credible data

993
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:09,119
doesn't matter what it follows g is a

994
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:09,760
scientific

995
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,640
study ufo beta period and those

996
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:14,880
definitions are still valid today

997
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,320
so in 1981 and the first issue of the

998
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,520
fairways project

999
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:22,000
as on the board of directors with as a

1000
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:23,760
special advisor with freeman and moore

1001
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,240
and

1002
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:26,640
to that project i started the ufo

1003
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,599
dictionary project which i have rebooted

1004
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:31,920
because in the software there is a

1005
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:32,800
dictionary

1006
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,440
that will keep you from using stupid

1007
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,960
terms that don't mean what you're trying

1008
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,839
to say

1009
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,839
and i think that's important words are

1010
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:40,960
important they either

1011
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:43,119
mean what they they do or they mean

1012
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,079
nothing at all

1013
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:46,720
so again this page here it's in every

1014
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:47,200
book

1015
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,640
going forward in the real history

1016
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,400
matters thing look at the word debunker

1017
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:51,760
it's from the dictionary

1018
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,359
it says that it you know is just to

1019
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,680
separate fact from fiction okay so the

1020
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,119
moment somebody

1021
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,040
misuses the word debunker this is my

1022
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,520
point here and randall's one of many

1023
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,200
you have to stop them right there and if

1024
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,960
they can't get past that point

1025
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,160
there's no there's no point in

1026
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:10,079
continuing it's propaganda at that point

1027
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,359
not fact

1028
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:13,520
now again the reason i can do all this

1029
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:14,560
is because

1030
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,160
i have a group that is worldwide bob

1031
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:20,240
kivia has talked about it he's hired it

1032
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,440
many times

1033
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:24,000
and we study many different areas in

1034
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,960
fact i'm going to

1035
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,640
list some of the partners here shortly

1036
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:28,560
because they're part of the software

1037
00:36:33,589 --> 00:36:31,839
and we cover all kinds of stuff so

1038
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,599
real quickly i've got these divisions

1039
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:35,599
analytics without analytics data is

1040
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,240
useless

1041
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,920
intelligence it's been my personal

1042
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:39,359
observation that if you don't have good

1043
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,640
intelligence

1044
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:43,040
it doesn't work out well i study

1045
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,920
archaeology

1046
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:47,200
i love history

1047
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,359
i study arts and literature of course i

1048
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,960
write books i also help get books

1049
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,640
published for other authors

1050
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,440
love philosophy love religion as in

1051
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,880
studying religions and why people

1052
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:58,400
believe in that stuff

1053
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,320
politics of course i'm very much into

1054
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,160
that social issues

1055
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,320
can separate politics from social issues

1056
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,440
science i love

1057
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:07,680
all science i'm fascinated by everything

1058
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,480
i don't know

1059
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,560
and of course i love tech if i hadn't

1060
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,400
met a guy named steve jobs years ago

1061
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,920
i probably would have stayed as a

1062
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,440
forensics guy in a

1063
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,520
as a lab rat in the police department

1064
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,520
but you know he changed my life

1065
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,760
so the studies that we do are in these

1066
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,720
areas

1067
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,800
i don't do anything that is outside

1068
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,640
these charters of responsibility

1069
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:29,040
and they are charters of responsibility

1070
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:30,480
we have 12 of them

1071
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,520
it used to be total research i then sold

1072
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:34,720
that years ago

1073
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:37,359
after we did the kennedy study and larry

1074
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:37,920
king

1075
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:40,400
featured it and then it became critical

1076
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,040
thinkers

1077
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,920
and that is now changing this year it

1078
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:45,599
will launch in a new form

1079
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,839
uh where a lot of this will be public

1080
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,040
and i'll be

1081
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:51,359
releasing products that uh help others

1082
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:52,400
get their

1083
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:55,680
data out in these different areas and so

1084
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:58,880
so real quickly as as when we met i do

1085
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,880
three things with my existence i either

1086
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,800
do original research

1087
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,560
period original research is always

1088
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,440
important or i look at existing issues

1089
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,560
that have been

1090
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,400
left incomplete by others for whatever

1091
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,320
reason and i try to solve them

1092
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:14,960
otherwise i'd if i can't contribute or

1093
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:16,240
solve something i i

1094
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,079
i don't bother third thing is to um

1095
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:22,640
uh take existing issues and and see if i

1096
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,200
can uh

1097
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,440
add new things to them so either finish

1098
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:27,200
incomplete research do original research

1099
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:28,240
or finish

1100
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,240
or talk about existing issues and try to

1101
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:31,920
help people understand them like this

1102
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,480
election

1103
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,320
issue the fraud because we need to heal

1104
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,720
as a country but do it in a way that you

1105
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,320
can tell who's lying to you going

1106
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,839
forward who's a denier

1107
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,680
and if people are deniers about whatever

1108
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,040
subject fine

1109
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:45,280
but people need to know what is a real

1110
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,480
denier versus

1111
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,560
someone who just is wrong and most

1112
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,920
people are wrong they're

1113
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,560
not deniers in an extreme sense and real

1114
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,560
quickly all this started on october 19

1115
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,240
1973

1116
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,839
and this is when i saw this photo here

1117
00:39:02,870 --> 00:38:59,599
that you see in front of you stephen

1118
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:02,880
taken by jeffrey greenhaw and at this

1119
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,440
point

1120
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,839
you know as we grow up we reach a

1121
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,040
certain age where suddenly the light

1122
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,640
goes on and you're like wow

1123
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,640
yeah this one was a kind of a wacky case

1124
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,000
for those that don't know

1125
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,680
do you want to tell like what what it

1126
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,079
actually was in the picture

1127
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:18,079
yeah what happened is i'm in the sixth

1128
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,359
grade in our

1129
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,960
we had to bring in newspaper articles

1130
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,560
about what was going on in the world and

1131
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:24,160
summarize them before the teacher and

1132
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,680
get a point every day

1133
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,359
my parents didn't subscribe to a paper

1134
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,960
my dad wouldn't do it was only 10 cents

1135
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,160
a day but he wouldn't do it

1136
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:33,200
fine so i would borrow articles memorize

1137
00:39:35,109 --> 00:39:33,520
them

1138
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,119
in the five-minute break and talk like a

1139
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:37,040
broadcaster and you know just do that

1140
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:39,119
so everybody brought in ufo articles one

1141
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:40,720
day i'm like what the hell is this

1142
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,079
i had no idea well this case was there

1143
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:46,480
a police officer named jeffrey greenhaw

1144
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,359
he had taken

1145
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,320
i was a police chief of the small town

1146
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:52,480
in uh foxville alabama he had taken four

1147
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,680
polaroid photos

1148
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:55,359
of a creature standing on the road he

1149
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:56,880
chased it he

1150
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,960
said his car went off the side of the

1151
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,160
road it ran faster than

1152
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,640
any human i ever saw so here i am

1153
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,400
minding my own business i'm like well

1154
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,400
this is either real or it's not it can't

1155
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:08,400
be like two photos are real and two are

1156
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,880
fake

1157
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,880
it's either an alien or it's not it's

1158
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,480
what we call a binary

1159
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,319
and i've always tried to study binary

1160
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,480
cases because even if you can't prove

1161
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:17,920
it's true

1162
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,040
if the other possibility uh

1163
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,720
is the only answer you still got your

1164
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,400
answer even if you were wrong

1165
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,119
so i don't mind being wrong because it's

1166
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,800
actually a good way to learn

1167
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,560
at least based on my experience in life

1168
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:33,200
but in this case i became fascinated by

1169
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,800
it when i was a young kid

1170
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:36,240
went down the library devoured

1171
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:37,920
everything i could became totally into

1172
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,560
the subject

1173
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,720
and next thing i know uh within a year

1174
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,680
and a half i'm

1175
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,839
doing stuff with stanton friedman so it

1176
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,839
turns out that this photo was a hoax

1177
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,000
and what i loved it is that what i loved

1178
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:50,000
about it is that again we could solve it

1179
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,359
one way or another

1180
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:53,040
okay and again according to green high

1181
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:54,720
he drove out to investigate the ufo

1182
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,359
report

1183
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:56,880
encountered this creature standing in

1184
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:59,599
the road again it's either real or it's

1185
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:00,240
not

1186
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,760
hoax okay we're gonna have some like

1187
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:05,119
high school kids that dressed up in

1188
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,240
these costumes

1189
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,079
right made out of aluminum foil and

1190
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,079
stuff like that yeah what they did is

1191
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:12,160
they had one and then they added foil to

1192
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:12,480
it

1193
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:15,680
the top on the photo on the far

1194
00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:18,240
right at least my far right um the

1195
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,839
little antenna thing they put up there

1196
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:20,960
you know

1197
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,359
i gotta have that but this is what it

1198
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:25,359
was and it was a hoax and the guy lost

1199
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,000
his uh

1200
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,319
marriage and was fired and all that but

1201
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:30,480
it this was my introduction to the ufo

1202
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,280
subject

1203
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,599
and i remember as a kid thinking why do

1204
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:35,359
adults lie

1205
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,560
they're adults that's what's my thinking

1206
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,720
and when i started reading adamski's

1207
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,240
books and reading about

1208
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,000
lakes on the backside of the moon and

1209
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,680
things like that venus you know meyer

1210
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:46,480
going to venus

1211
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,920
it's like come on i know enough about

1212
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,760
astronomy since uh

1213
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,599
you know second grade uh there's my

1214
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,960
first uh

1215
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,720
i'm in second grade and i know that's

1216
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,319
very good yeah

1217
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:59,040
so anyway then what happened is i

1218
00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:00,319
continued doing my thing

1219
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,760
this article has never appeared on the

1220
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,240
internet because it didn't exist then

1221
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,480
and uh the press started hearing about

1222
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,560
my stuff when i was a kid

1223
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,280
i had massive file cabinets and just

1224
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,079
thousands and thousands of files

1225
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:16,079
and it mentions here for example

1226
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,599
although korff doesn't have a college

1227
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:19,200
degree in the subject yet

1228
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,640
i was thinking whether i should try to

1229
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,240
get one uh i

1230
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,119
heard people were working on them um he

1231
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:27,040
does correspond with and assist many of

1232
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,640
the prominent scientists who study the

1233
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,960
saucer phenomenon many of the scientists

1234
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:32,560
don't know cal's age but correspond with

1235
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,119
him

1236
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,520
on adult basis sharing information

1237
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:37,440
photographs that's true

1238
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,040
they didn't know i was a kid they

1239
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,640
thought it was whomever

1240
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,160
and they'd share with me all kinds of

1241
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:44,000
stuff they were later shocked i was a

1242
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,640
kid

1243
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,640
so i would hide my age in fact i have a

1244
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,920
letter from stanton

1245
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,760
it's funny he says the secret of your

1246
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,440
age is safe with me because i swore him

1247
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,119
to secrecy

1248
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,920
and um because adults were like he's a

1249
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:57,599
kid i'm not going to spend time on him

1250
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,240
but if they got a letter typed they

1251
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,920
thought an adult wrote them or a fellow

1252
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,359
scientist even though i never claimed to

1253
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:06,000
be one i certainly could argue my case

1254
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,720
it was amazing how this stuff worked so

1255
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,640
it says here taking the subject

1256
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,560
very seriously he has a mass possibly

1257
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:14,160
third largest collection blah blah blah

1258
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:15,359
shares the photos

1259
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,720
many of which have been proven fakes

1260
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,800
with other ufologists again i

1261
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:21,359
i wendell and i used to exchange photos

1262
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,560
he he had the

1263
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,040
largest collection ron smotech had the

1264
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,640
second i had the third

1265
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:28,400
uh the third the youth corresponds with

1266
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,920
some 45 of the world's leading

1267
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,400
ufologists including dr jalen heinick

1268
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,240
uh then it says dr heineck who cal has

1269
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:36,160
met and talked with yes i met heinrich

1270
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,760
when he interviewed him for the john

1271
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:39,119
dosa tv show

1272
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,920
on tour and i'll never forget real

1273
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:43,040
quickly when he

1274
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,720
when women would come into the room

1275
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:46,880
heinek would take his hat off

1276
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,839
out of a sign of respect no one else did

1277
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,160
and that really made an impression on me

1278
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,000
because it was really cold when he did

1279
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:55,920
that tour uh for the movie

1280
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,640
at that time where we were and i kept my

1281
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,599
my beanie on

1282
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,680
but uh because i just never took hats

1283
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,880
off for anybody it just wasn't my

1284
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,079
generation

1285
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,440
but um i he was such a gentleman and

1286
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:10,800
apolitical wasn't a friedman-like at all

1287
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,880
and what a contrast between the two and

1288
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:14,319
then it says here in addition callus

1289
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,920
supplying dr heineck center for ufo

1290
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,640
studies

1291
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,240
with photographs the center hopes to

1292
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,920
copy the photographs return slide form

1293
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,960
for sell the republic

1294
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:23,359
to raise funds yes i did that not all

1295
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:24,560
the photos i sent

1296
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,520
were finally chosen they had i think 20

1297
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:29,200
or 30. they're trying to keep the price

1298
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,560
point down for them

1299
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,880
uh but yeah i was very much involved and

1300
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,720
we talked a lot on the phone and

1301
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,720
spent time together and this is stuff

1302
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:38,160
that people don't know it's stuff

1303
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,760
kevin randle and my critics aren't going

1304
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:41,359
to tell you but again

1305
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,720
i'm pointing out here that i was in

1306
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,560
touch with everybody except essentially

1307
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:46,400
kevin randle and there was a very good

1308
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,520
reason for that

1309
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,440
because i didn't feel like i could get

1310
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,920
further to the ufo truth if i engaged

1311
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:52,800
him on anything

1312
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,640
i'd read his articles shake my head and

1313
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:55,920
go okay

1314
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,520
in my opinion he's a he's a belieber

1315
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:01,200
this was my business card when i was a

1316
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,280
kid

1317
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,760
okay in fact i worked so closely with

1318
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,760
heinek that i stuck it on heinick's form

1319
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,440
he gave me

1320
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,400
okay the short questionnaire form we

1321
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:14,720
would hand out to prospective witnesses

1322
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:18,480
as the newspaper article noted if the

1323
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,400
report initially passed this first

1324
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:24,480
one sheeter we would then i would send

1325
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,079
them a 10 page questionnaire

1326
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:28,640
okay okay and that's in the the article

1327
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,839
these are articles written at that time

1328
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,760
it's real and to show you what a small

1329
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,680
world it is stephen and this photo's

1330
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,599
never been published before it's in my

1331
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,119
upcoming autobiography where kevin

1332
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:41,440
randle is also nailed again

1333
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:45,040
um this is me in the middle of the class

1334
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,160
i was the top student

1335
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,520
the most famous and all that other fun

1336
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,400
stuff uh top student when i wanted to be

1337
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:52,240
the actual valedictorian was the guy to

1338
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:53,359
my right

1339
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:56,000
uh byron young who uh it was funny

1340
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,040
because he used to ask me for the

1341
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:59,440
answers in the advanced science class

1342
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,839
we were friends but my grades were such

1343
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:03,200
that if i really loved this

1344
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,880
subject nobody could beat me if i didn't

1345
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,400
love it i didn't care

1346
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,480
that's just the way i was and i finished

1347
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,760
high school in three years

1348
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,480
uh stayed the fourth year only so that i

1349
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:14,079
could graduate with friends and not

1350
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,359
strangers

1351
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,920
and uh was just you know doing college

1352
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,200
before i was even out of

1353
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,880
high school and my girlfriend was in

1354
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,280
college i was you know

1355
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,440
one of those advanced students as i said

1356
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,119
now the reason this photo's being shared

1357
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:29,200
is because of this

1358
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,839
years later after we graduated young

1359
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,359
would go work for a guy named bob

1360
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,040
schaefer

1361
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:37,359
what a small world and i had no contact

1362
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,480
with young after we

1363
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:40,319
graduated we weren't close in high

1364
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:41,520
school

1365
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,800
nice guy steadied his ass off but i had

1366
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,560
my little click of friends and we were

1367
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,319
doing paranormal investigations and

1368
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,480
stuff and he was more like a

1369
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,800
a you know hard studying student he got

1370
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,480
into computers in i.t and i thought that

1371
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,240
was interesting because i did too but it

1372
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:57,839
shows you what a small world are what

1373
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,000
are the odds of graduating the top one

1374
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,520
and two students so to speak

1375
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,599
well known all that and then he ends up

1376
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:05,359
working for for schaefer

1377
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:09,119
i end up uh writing this book that

1378
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,319
can you can brings foreclosure bob

1379
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,560
schaefer for the benefit yeah i'm sorry

1380
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,319
good question bob schaefer is one of the

1381
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,160
top ufo skeptics

1382
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,319
uh he gets falsely accused of being a

1383
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,880
close-minded debunker

1384
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:23,280
um in the friedman sense he's not he

1385
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,400
believes that

1386
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:26,000
he would accept a ufo case if he could

1387
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,000
find one that was real

1388
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,839
and my first contact with him wasn't

1389
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:31,680
very friendly in high school because i

1390
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,559
went to go

1391
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,559
take it to him on behalf of friedman and

1392
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,920
it didn't work

1393
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,839
so he and i are friends i'm going to be

1394
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:39,280
doing a show with him hopefully i'm

1395
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,720
going to invite him on my show soon

1396
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,839
kel's corner

1397
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,960
and then of course i'm going to

1398
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:44,240
interview him for the book and send him

1399
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,839
a copy of this because uh

1400
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,680
this comes full circle it brings closure

1401
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:49,680
to shaffer's expose of the

1402
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,000
hill case years ago which phil class has

1403
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:53,760
sent me a copy of

1404
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,000
so anyway speaking of this stuff here

1405
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:57,680
here's a letter from phil class

1406
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,480
and i got along with everybody everybody

1407
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,079
nobody had a problem with me

1408
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,160
it was only when the meyer case came out

1409
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,680
and the meyer nuts

1410
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,880
they're the ones that started the

1411
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:08,880
[\h__\h] even wendell wrote me that

1412
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,559
letter as is in our book

1413
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:13,280
as you know stephen that said no hard

1414
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,920
feelings

1415
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,520
everyone got along with me so i don't

1416
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:16,800
know what people's problems are now

1417
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,079
because i haven't really changed

1418
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:20,400
i'm more blunt because i've realized if

1419
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:21,200
you don't speak up

1420
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,319
people continue to [\h__\h] and [\h__\h]

1421
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,480
sure yeah but and you know and take a

1422
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:27,920
binary where you can but look at this

1423
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:28,640
letter from phil

1424
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:32,079
1980 uh i'm so rushed at the moment

1425
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,200
including preparing for the big

1426
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,880
smithsonian institute that was a debate

1427
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,559
with heineken dream maccabee schaefer

1428
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,920
oberkin so

1429
00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:39,359
first let me say if i had your writing

1430
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:40,960
talents when i was your age i

1431
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,079
might today be another william

1432
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,240
shakespeare you're able writer and so on

1433
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:45,920
i appreciate the compliment but in my

1434
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,680
opinion i have no writing skills

1435
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,920
i write like i speak so if i hadn't met

1436
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,440
stan freeman as a kid

1437
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:53,839
saw his lecture had never seen a lecture

1438
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,559
before

1439
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:56,400
said i could do that knew everything he

1440
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:58,559
had talked about actually added more

1441
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,599
i started lecturing became very popular

1442
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,520
did a lot of media stuff as a kid became

1443
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:04,800
very famous

1444
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:07,119
and um then when i went to write it up

1445
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,400
it was just like well

1446
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,079
this is how i would say it and i type it

1447
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:12,000
up if that makes me a good writer

1448
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:13,200
whatever i don't care

1449
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,640
as long as you can understand what i'm

1450
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,480
saying that's all i care about

1451
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:18,240
as far as style goes that's for real

1452
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:20,079
writers

1453
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,280
anyway here's some more this will be the

1454
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,920
portfolio by the end of this year and

1455
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,040
i'm happy with it

1456
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,200
and no one has a portfolio like this who

1457
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,720
investigates this stuff

1458
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,960
and i'm not saying this from an ego

1459
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,640
standpoint i'm saying it from a factual

1460
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,839
standpoint

1461
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:38,319
again look at the book here spacious of

1462
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:39,440
the pleiades it is the

1463
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:42,079
the definitive expose on meyer it is the

1464
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,760
best-selling expose on myer

1465
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,760
the second book it was the first book by

1466
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,520
a major publisher the biggest in the

1467
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,040
world random house

1468
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:52,160
um to expose kevin randle and all the

1469
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,359
roswell claims

1470
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:54,880
in fact the marketing campaign for it

1471
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:57,280
was e equals mc

1472
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:00,400
22 einstein was right it showed einstein

1473
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,000
it showed that it exposed the false

1474
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,240
claims in the top 22 roswell books

1475
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,800
including kevin randles then the wisdom

1476
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,040
of deepak chopra's random buzzwords

1477
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:11,200
i'm going to update that later uh when

1478
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,559
he gets his virtual

1479
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:15,119
self online that's an excuse to do it

1480
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:17,920
the fbi secret cattle mutilation files

1481
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,960
had those years ago this destroys what

1482
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:22,240
molten hell claims

1483
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,440
it did in the 80s annie jacobson expose

1484
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,640
which is being updated

1485
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,640
with multimedia interactive elements

1486
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:30,480
being added the wendell book

1487
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,520
same thing with new material updates on

1488
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:36,160
what mikey did to you and i and melissa

1489
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,599
uh that another still emailing me

1490
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,599
well let's give them an update we've

1491
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,119
talked about it let's do it the rex

1492
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,800
heflin thing which will be part of the

1493
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,640
software i'll get into in a moment

1494
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,720
solving the hill case hopefully we'll

1495
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,319
stop the movie from coming out

1496
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,640
lying to people exploiting it we don't

1497
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,079
need more of that

1498
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,839
nothing personal and then of course the

1499
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,760
roswell debris thing that's an issue

1500
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,280
unfortunately randall goes down in that

1501
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,040
one too but that's just physics

1502
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:03,760
then of course the making of bigfoot i

1503
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,880
got that book published via prometheus

1504
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,280
helped edit it wrote some small parts of

1505
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,520
it did the national geographic special

1506
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,200
where he found the guy who wore the suit

1507
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:14,559
found the guy who made the suit

1508
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:16,559
found the guy who sold it to patterson

1509
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,839
put them all back together

1510
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,000
except patterson he was dead recreated

1511
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,640
it and destroyed the patterson case

1512
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,240
that's a fact

1513
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,720
people are in denial if they say that

1514
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:27,680
didn't happen

1515
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,440
then the last two cases i've got the

1516
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:31,040
originals from there that prove those

1517
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:31,760
cases are

1518
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,040
a hoax and here's another thing too

1519
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,839
um these were my deliverables under

1520
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,599
total research and critical thinkers

1521
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,480
as of the year 2000 so major ones

1522
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:44,000
there's a bunch of other ones but these

1523
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,200
are the high level ones

1524
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:47,760
so on the 30th anniversary in 1993 i did

1525
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:50,960
larry king live solving kennedy's murder

1526
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,760
it's a fact anybody can check it i got

1527
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,119
famous for that

1528
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:57,839
fox tv exposing the meyer case

1529
00:52:02,829 --> 00:51:59,760
announcing i'd gone undercover all that

1530
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:02,839
beat jim delatoso on that bobcaviat

1531
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,559
special

1532
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:07,040
then what kevin randle won't tell you

1533
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:08,160
you ask him why is

1534
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:10,880
all day msnbc special 50th anniversary

1535
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:12,000
on roswell

1536
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,000
again showing it was project mogul

1537
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:16,079
contrary to what randall says

1538
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:19,520
then of course nbc lisa solving the

1539
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,280
phoenix lights proving that those

1540
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:23,520
reports were not credible a lot of them

1541
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,599
i was invited on that show

1542
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,319
because i was the objective person they

1543
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:30,160
even tested me with three videos tried

1544
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,040
to fool me

1545
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,960
it didn't work then of course something

1546
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,400
randall doesn't talk about which

1547
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,400
surprised me stephen

1548
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,119
i debated him already and i beat him he

1549
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,760
appeared on abc tv with me in june of

1550
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,200
1997

1551
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:45,200
on the 50th anniversary with his lying

1552
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,240
hoax witness

1553
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,800
frank kaufman it was two against one and

1554
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,160
they lost

1555
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:52,240
he didn't even mention this that i'd

1556
00:52:54,950 --> 00:52:53,200
already beaten him

1557
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:54,960
so i really don't need to debate him but

1558
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,240
of course i'm willing to

1559
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:58,160
but i've already done it kicked his ass

1560
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,440
and he admits now

1561
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:01,680
kaufman was a hoaxer and randall as i

1562
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:02,960
said has endorsed more

1563
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,599
phony roswell witnesses than any other

1564
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,440
most famous roswell author he endorsed

1565
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,599
way more fakes than friedman did

1566
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,680
and don schmidt is not credible either

1567
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,040
his former partner

1568
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:15,200
that says a lot about both men then of

1569
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,480
course the last thing

1570
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,240
again i remind people of this because we

1571
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:20,319
did this when i worked at boeing

1572
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,160
discovery channel back when discovery

1573
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:23,920
channel was credible

1574
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,559
secrets of area 51 revealed we proved no

1575
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:28,160
aliens there and that a lot of these

1576
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,119
reports are just

1577
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:31,839
disinformation by the us government to

1578
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,559
hide

1579
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,880
secret projects using ufos as a cover

1580
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,680
story

1581
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,680
and that's why uh we talked about lazar

1582
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,960
meyer briefly

1583
00:53:42,309 --> 00:53:41,280
again i'm sure i've seen that i'm sure

1584
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,319
i've seen that

1585
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,200
yeah it uh we did we the same producers

1586
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,800
filmed two of them one was a phoenix

1587
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,640
lights one which bruce mcabee

1588
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,319
did most of the footage in that and

1589
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:52,160
bruce did a very simple experiment which

1590
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,680
i'll share with you quickly

1591
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,599
all he did is he stood at the location

1592
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:58,160
where one sequence was taken where they

1593
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:58,800
seemed to

1594
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:01,119
disappear what they did is they fell

1595
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:02,640
behind the mountain range so they

1596
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,000
weren't visible anymore and all he did

1597
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:05,680
is he took a piece of glass and he drew

1598
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,880
with a marker

1599
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,880
the line of the mountains shot through

1600
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,559
the camera and you can see

1601
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:12,240
when you redo the film that they fell

1602
00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:13,839
behind the mountain they didn't wink out

1603
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:14,319
or

1604
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,240
dimension that was

1605
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,400
nonsense jim de la tolso new h-type

1606
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,559
stuff so again the theme behind all of

1607
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,000
this folks is real history

1608
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,559
matters we've all heard the expression

1609
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,319
and the truism that those who

1610
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,319
fail to heed the lis lessons of history

1611
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,000
are doomed to repeat its failures

1612
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,319
that's true and look at human the

1613
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,000
history of the human race

1614
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,200
unfortunately that problem continues but

1615
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:41,280
when people are denying

1616
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:44,480
things to the point where we disagree so

1617
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,000
you must be a this

1618
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:47,920
no i just disagree doesn't mean i'm

1619
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,040
anything

1620
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:51,440
that's when society begins to fall apart

1621
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:52,720
and we see

1622
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,599
the problems we have today and when you

1623
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,440
and i met we talked about this you have

1624
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:58,640
some of these slides

1625
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,839
this is the sad pathetic state of the

1626
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:03,760
united states and its people

1627
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:06,319
as far as what they believe and kevin

1628
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:07,839
randle i'm sorry

1629
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,880
has fueled some of this not because he's

1630
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,720
interested in pushing the truth i can

1631
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,079
prove he has known

1632
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:16,079
that some of this is not true and then

1633
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,280
he has to explain

1634
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,520
why he would still proceed with that i

1635
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:21,599
haven't gotten every ufo case right as

1636
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,160
well

1637
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:24,960
but when i got major marcel's military

1638
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,599
file

1639
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,599
and was able to easily see that this guy

1640
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,359
was not what he claimed to be

1641
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,280
i got with the truth same with the old

1642
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,040
case but

1643
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,559
that's the difference between me and

1644
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,240
some other researchers

1645
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,880
so if you look at uh the number of

1646
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:41,040
people who believe in these conspiracies

1647
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,240
jfk 160 million people

1648
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,880
the lowest number of people who have

1649
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,720
ever believed in kennedy's murder has

1650
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:49,920
been 51

1651
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,760
today at 61 it was a high of 81 percent

1652
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,839
look at george bush light about saddam's

1653
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:57,359
weapons of mass destruction

1654
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,040
44 believe that aliens exist 29 percent

1655
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:03,599
sodom hussein was involved in 9 11.

1656
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,799
87 million people believe that obama is

1657
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:08,799
living is the living antichrist

1658
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:11,359
40 million americans believe that when

1659
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:11,839
this

1660
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,960
survey was done before obama was out of

1661
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,319
office and before trump

1662
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:18,480
took place the apollo moon landings were

1663
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:22,799
faked 21.9 million people believed that

1664
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:25,359
these are the frightening numbers and

1665
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:27,520
this is before the recent election

1666
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:29,440
where half the country who voted

1667
00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,280
believes that there was some sort of

1668
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:33,839
rigged whatever and now we're in a

1669
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,200
pandemic

1670
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:38,559
americans think

1671
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:42,640
that vaccines are dangerous hello

1672
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,680
we've got to stop this stephen so it's

1673
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:47,040
gotten to the point

1674
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:50,240
in my thesis work that i can predict the

1675
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,240
political party now i've been able to do

1676
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,079
it for years with an algorithm

1677
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,720
and it is more right than wrong based on

1678
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:58,640
the conspiracy i hear i can tell

1679
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,119
whether you're republican or democrat on

1680
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:03,200
the case of the cosmic watergate

1681
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,040
62 percent of democrats believe in it

1682
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,440
23 percent of republicans 15 of

1683
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,880
independents

1684
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:13,040
on the kennedy this is how bad it was

1685
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:14,079
during these years

1686
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:18,160
okay this is how it was uh

1687
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:21,760
over the years the point is it remains

1688
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,960
very consistent today so 61 percent of

1689
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,079
americans believe the

1690
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:29,119
wrong thing they are in denial of real

1691
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,760
history

1692
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:31,520
and it's only about the death of our

1693
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,640
president right no big deal

1694
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,480
and you know look how it is versus

1695
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:37,680
republicans and i'm not saying

1696
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,920
republicans are perfect no they're not i

1697
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:41,520
often call them orthuglicans because

1698
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,400
they are

1699
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:45,119
well you know also though you have a lot

1700
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,440
of

1701
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:47,280
uh right-leaning people who are into

1702
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:49,040
that letter of the alphabet conspiracy

1703
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:50,319
and please don't even say it but you

1704
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,359
know which letter

1705
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:54,480
you do exactly yeah that's why i'm

1706
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:54,880
saying

1707
00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:58,480
the problem on both sides they are bingo

1708
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,520
they're both extremists okay

1709
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,880
now compare how democrats and

1710
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,720
republicans do to independents it seems

1711
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:06,160
like independents are the ones with the

1712
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,119
most brains and

1713
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,680
think critically the most studies show

1714
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,599
that they tend to check things out more

1715
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,200
rather than he's a republican you must

1716
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,119
be telling the truth no

1717
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:17,440
it's a republican and then you compare

1718
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:20,000
the average of people who are neither

1719
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:22,640
and you can see that the two parties are

1720
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,520
way out of line with uh reality here

1721
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:28,000
and here's what an academic study uh

1722
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:28,799
showed

1723
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:30,240
it says we found clear evidence that the

1724
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:31,440
united states is a strongly

1725
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,119
conspiratorial society

1726
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,280
according to study league christopher

1727
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:37,839
botter of sociologist chapman university

1728
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:39,280
it's a credible study

1729
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:41,599
we see a degree of paranoia and in the

1730
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,319
responses

1731
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:45,359
most indicative is nearly a one-third of

1732
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,559
the respondents

1733
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:48,559
believe the government is concealing

1734
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:50,880
information about the north dakota crash

1735
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,760
a theory we asked about that to our

1736
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:56,079
knowledge we made up

1737
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,880
there you go so i've done this

1738
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,240
experiment before

1739
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,920
penn teller inspired me to do it on

1740
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:03,680
[\h__\h] when they did this

1741
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,720
sign a petition to ban water and these

1742
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:08,400
bozos would sign it not knowing what

1743
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,079
they're signing

1744
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:13,040
they signed a petition to ban dihydrogen

1745
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:13,920
monoxide

1746
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,960
you know yeah i remember that yeah it

1747
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:18,400
was a great little

1748
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:21,520
study so american society

1749
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:22,960
because of kennedy and these other

1750
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,880
things and the government has played a

1751
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,000
role in

1752
00:59:29,990 --> 00:59:28,000
fueling distrust of course watergate

1753
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:30,000
didn't breed confidence in government

1754
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:30,799
truth

1755
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,960
and ethics um but it's reached to the

1756
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,559
point now where the media

1757
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,520
and researchers in bed with them and

1758
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,359
it's all about ratings and money and who

1759
00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:40,880
cares about truth

1760
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:43,280
your 15 minutes of fame whatever uh

1761
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,960
where things are out of control and

1762
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:46,559
that's why there is this push back and

1763
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:48,079
i'm working very quietly

1764
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:51,520
with others to to do this um now let's

1765
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:52,960
get to um

1766
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:55,920
the software and i'm using this as a

1767
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:57,599
real example just because it was on the

1768
01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:58,400
show

1769
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,079
but it's not it's really not about him

1770
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:05,280
first of all um i don't like using this

1771
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:05,680
word

1772
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:08,319
he says i think he said i like to or do

1773
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:09,760
call people liars

1774
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,559
if i use that term i think i can defend

1775
01:00:17,030 --> 01:00:15,040
it a lie means you know it's not true

1776
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:17,040
if a person's wrong that's different i

1777
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,079
have no problem with that

1778
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,680
i think i think a lot of people are

1779
01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:21,280
asking in the live chat about the

1780
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,559
ufo software right get to that next

1781
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:27,040
yeah this is the segway into it okay

1782
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:28,559
okay great yeah

1783
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:31,119
so basically we found with the software

1784
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:31,599
there's an

1785
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:35,200
ai module to it that um

1786
01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:38,799
kevin randle uses these major areas to

1787
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:39,760
do his stuff

1788
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:41,599
and the software proves this and we're

1789
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,040
using this algorithm

1790
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,240
for other case modules and cases

1791
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:48,799
uh basically uh he just says things that

1792
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:49,599
aren't true

1793
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,799
okay he denies a real responsibility for

1794
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,000
something like when

1795
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,920
don schmidt is a fake and has a fake

1796
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,520
degree and randall works with him for

1797
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,760
years and says he didn't know that

1798
01:01:02,870 --> 01:01:01,119
and then of course their selective

1799
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:02,880
choice of data for example

1800
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:06,079
he uh cited edwin easley where he says

1801
01:01:08,710 --> 01:01:07,040
that

1802
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,720
he takes his testimony about bodies of

1803
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:10,960
roswell that was exposed in my book you

1804
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,920
can go look it up

1805
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,680
easily didn't say that randall cannot

1806
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:15,280
produce recordings that say what he

1807
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,079
claims

1808
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:18,000
randall was taking a person who was

1809
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,599
mentally not all there and

1810
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,280
and leading him around and that is a

1811
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:23,040
fact that was exposed in my book it was

1812
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,559
cherry picking his data

1813
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:26,720
yet randall will also say that the other

1814
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,720
body witnesses are not credible yet he

1815
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,240
endorsed them in his books

1816
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:31,760
and then of course there's irrelevant

1817
01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:34,160
attacks which i frankly don't know why

1818
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,440
anybody would do that

1819
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:37,359
for example he said out of the blue that

1820
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,640
um at least he's trained in weapons

1821
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:42,160
okay i don't know what being trained in

1822
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:43,599
weapons just because you're in the army

1823
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,799
reserve or whatever

1824
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,040
has to do with roswell and of course i'm

1825
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:49,040
trained in weapons too who cares

1826
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:50,960
different ones but anyway i even own

1827
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,319
them but uh

1828
01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:54,240
it is completely irrelevant but who

1829
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:56,720
knows how people take that you know

1830
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,760
okay so now let's get to uh

1831
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,280
real quickly not showing up for the

1832
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:02,880
debate again

1833
01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:06,640
that didn't happen in fact um

1834
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:09,680
um when we were in prague

1835
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:12,079
okay uh for the debate this was the

1836
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:13,359
location here

1837
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:16,000
okay uh not only did i show up for it

1838
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:17,440
but i made a point

1839
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:19,440
to appear at the memorial for the

1840
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:20,880
victims of communism

1841
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:22,960
because i was going to hit randall with

1842
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:24,880
the question which i'll do right now

1843
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:28,400
i ask and challenge him to answer this

1844
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,039
how can you saying you love your country

1845
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:33,760
dr kevin randle

1846
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:36,160
accuse the government of threatening to

1847
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:36,960
even kill

1848
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:39,280
roswell eyewitnesses harm them silence

1849
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,400
them

1850
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:42,480
you served your country honorably i

1851
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:43,520
presume

1852
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:45,839
you retired with benefits and a pension

1853
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:48,640
you write books that libel and slander

1854
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,680
the us government over a over a cover-up

1855
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:53,680
that isn't real

1856
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:55,119
i have a problem with that i have a

1857
01:02:59,589 --> 01:02:57,440
problem with anybody who would do that

1858
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,599
okay and so i'd like to know from

1859
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:01,280
randall and anybody else

1860
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:03,200
why they would say things about the

1861
01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,559
government that aren't

1862
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:07,119
true about this and this brings up an

1863
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:08,720
issue that phil class did

1864
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:10,880
you probably know that phil class turned

1865
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:12,079
stanton freeman over

1866
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,960
reported him to the fbi because he was

1867
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:16,799
saying all kinds of conspiracy stuff

1868
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:17,359
that just

1869
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,880
could not be true now phil class has

1870
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:22,640
been condemned by ufo believers

1871
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,440
well that's a cheap shot oh really it's

1872
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,359
not a cheap shot to make up and lie

1873
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:29,520
about a cover-up that doesn't exist

1874
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:31,599
and you're also helping fake data and

1875
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:32,640
misrepresented

1876
01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:36,000
to fuel that lie i'm sorry

1877
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:38,559
that's pretty special so i was going to

1878
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:40,880
ask him that question at this debate

1879
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:43,039
but when i asked that it be moved to

1880
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:44,880
december 7th pearl harbor day

1881
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,920
which i thought was rather symbolic and

1882
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:49,520
patriotic and was going to

1883
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:52,319
be a great platform for this question i

1884
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,160
was never told the debate would happen

1885
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:56,319
i'm still waiting all these years later

1886
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:58,160
no problem

1887
01:04:01,829 --> 01:04:00,480
and because i hate communism that's why

1888
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:01,839
i wanted to go there and i still fight

1889
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:02,720
against it

1890
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,240
i'm sharing with you now and this is

1891
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:06,240
leading into the software i think maybe

1892
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:07,440
you've seen this stephen

1893
01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:10,559
this is a database i created recently

1894
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:12,880
as part of fighting against communism

1895
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:14,559
and it's part of a new book project

1896
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,799
where i expose the truth about the covid

1897
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:18,400
virus okay

1898
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:21,200
this database i did it it's one of many

1899
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:23,119
i've done for many many years it's just

1900
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,920
my latest major one in a different area

1901
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:27,440
it's actually a module that's part of

1902
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,240
the

1903
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,480
chinese communist party database because

1904
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,079
i do have databases on

1905
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:34,799
the communist chinese party and as an

1906
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:37,440
analyst i do write papers and things

1907
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:39,280
uh giving my views about things and i

1908
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:41,839
pass them up the chain

1909
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:44,640
i also report on it okay so again to be

1910
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:45,520
clear

1911
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:48,079
no evidence they made the virus but they

1912
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,920
did infect the world deliberately this

1913
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:51,599
isn't right-wing stuff this is cause and

1914
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:52,960
effect anytime you sic

1915
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:54,559
send people out in the world who are

1916
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:56,079
sick they're going to get other people

1917
01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:56,559
sick

1918
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:58,480
doesn't matter who they are and of

1919
01:05:00,710 --> 01:05:00,240
course as you know this book is coming

1920
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,720
out

1921
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:02,960
melissa's the publisher and it exposes

1922
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:03,920
everything

1923
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,240
and the fact that this software exists

1924
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:08,000
and that i have reported on china for

1925
01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:09,680
many many years

1926
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,119
all this stuff i mean it's a matter of

1927
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:13,119
public record full-page specials warning

1928
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:14,960
people they're the biggest threat to

1929
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,240
civilized society today and all that um

1930
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:21,359
again has been true for years

1931
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,599
it's not acknowledged by my critics just

1932
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,520
like randall didn't tell you that

1933
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,359
i beat him in a debate that's a frame

1934
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:29,359
from it right there

1935
01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:32,799
okay now this book exposed randall

1936
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,839
this one will my autobiography what i

1937
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:37,440
think i know which is based on what i

1938
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:39,039
think i've learned all my life

1939
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:43,039
traveling that exposes him and this one

1940
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,520
puts the vampire to bed permanently all

1941
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:47,039
the stuff i've been alluding to

1942
01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:50,480
all the background stuff comes out now

1943
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:53,039
my diaries they've been found and

1944
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,559
randall made the comment that

1945
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,720
my book didn't disclose anything new or

1946
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:57,680
original

1947
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,640
no why made a point in that book to use

1948
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:02,240
publicly available data to show to

1949
01:06:05,190 --> 01:06:03,920
people that if you just go through the

1950
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,200
public data

1951
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,760
this isn't true but now that even

1952
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:09,520
randall didn't get that message or ufo

1953
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,960
believers have not

1954
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:12,960
i'm going to let everything out and it

1955
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,280
proves that these people just are not

1956
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:18,000
credible and here it is here's stan's

1957
01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:18,960
letter to me

1958
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:21,039
saying long time no here thought you

1959
01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:22,559
would be interested in the enclosures

1960
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:24,880
with lazar don schmidt blah blah blah

1961
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:26,799
so stan's excited i'm jumping in saying

1962
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:28,880
can you believe what this guy's saying

1963
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,480
and then of course randall and then of

1964
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,720
course stan sends this to me

1965
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,960
they're going at each other he's sending

1966
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:36,400
it to the newspapers

1967
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,760
and then of course randall's trying to

1968
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,760
do spin control listen

1969
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:42,240
with respect though cal we everybody's

1970
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:43,839
here to hear about this software and

1971
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,480
we've had an

1972
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:46,559
hour and six minutes of you beating up

1973
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:48,799
randall who's not here to defend himself

1974
01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:51,760
so can we listen i understand you guys

1975
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,319
are both passionate in your belief that

1976
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,960
each of you are wrong it's not that this

1977
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,640
is how it's related

1978
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,319
i'm showing you this because this is

1979
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:03,119
foundational material in my databases

1980
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:05,680
in the new software okay in other words

1981
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:06,640
it's not just me

1982
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:10,559
saying this i've done that it's here

1983
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,160
okay so these books have it in there

1984
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:17,039
this is a smoking gun you may remember

1985
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,559
this report

1986
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:20,799
again i knew everybody i made a point to

1987
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:22,799
avoid randall back then

1988
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:25,839
here is len stringfield stuff for me you

1989
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,640
may remember this here right

1990
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:30,240
but what nobody knows because i never

1991
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,839
published it is that when we got through

1992
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:33,039
with the witnesses

1993
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,960
we did a much better job okay

1994
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:38,240
so all this is coming out in the

1995
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:40,640
software

1996
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:43,119
and because it started with hypercard

1997
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,640
this is a chart here that tracks the

1998
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:46,319
evolution of the web and all that

1999
01:07:49,829 --> 01:07:49,119
this is major stuff in fact this is the

2000
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:49,839
kmi

2001
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:51,520
article that proves what i was saying

2002
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:53,039
about lazar

2003
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:55,039
that i created a file called rosetta

2004
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:56,640
stone in the hypercard system for what

2005
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,119
else

2006
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,680
his volumes of ufo information this was

2007
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:00,880
ufo comp

2008
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,200
i've now adopted parts of this for

2009
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:05,200
everyone else to use

2010
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:06,640
okay that's what i'm going to show you

2011
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:09,440
in a moment this is foundational stuff

2012
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:12,079
never on the internet from 1998 and i

2013
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,680
say here i live for the day johnny can

2014
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,440
get whatever he wants on a computer

2015
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:17,600
a total freedom of information this is

2016
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:18,480
the future

2017
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,920
he said motioning towards a small

2018
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,679
computer on the dinette table

2019
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,520
i won't see it in my lifetime they'll

2020
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:25,440
have to read it all about me on a hyper

2021
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:26,080
card

2022
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:29,440
the web didn't exist yet okay

2023
01:08:33,669 --> 01:08:32,159
so we took this stuff from our computer

2024
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:33,679
studies in hypercard

2025
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,839
and filemaker we created these

2026
01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:37,120
information sheets

2027
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:39,679
like on kennedy's murder proving very

2028
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:40,239
easy

2029
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:43,440
on one single page each part of how he

2030
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:44,159
died

2031
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,640
this is the moment the lapel went

2032
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:47,759
through both of them

2033
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:51,040
okay the skull shots the bullets etc

2034
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:52,159
recreating everything

2035
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:54,880
under total research we've done the same

2036
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:55,359
thing

2037
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,400
with randall and ufo data now

2038
01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,480
where we've put all of this into the

2039
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,759
databases

2040
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,000
and we've added machine learning and ai

2041
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:06,159
in there and we found stuff that humans

2042
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:06,719
wouldn't

2043
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:09,759
know this is kennedy stuff for example

2044
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,400
so we used hypercard the system you see

2045
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:13,920
behind it is my

2046
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,799
m3 workstation i don't know what randall

2047
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:17,920
uses but

2048
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,560
you know this is what i do and hypercard

2049
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:22,719
of course

2050
01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:26,159
was way ahead of its time and this was

2051
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,000
my project

2052
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:30,640
this was again a database uh done i used

2053
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:32,159
for the new virus project

2054
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,000
and here is what i'm going to share with

2055
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,679
ufo researchers

2056
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:37,679
and i'm going to start giving them this

2057
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:39,920
software okay

2058
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:42,799
basically i use different systems that

2059
01:09:46,070 --> 01:09:43,440
um

2060
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:46,080
i have designed i've coded on my own

2061
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:46,960
over the years

2062
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:49,199
tracking everything from terrorists to i

2063
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,560
t issues

2064
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:53,359
and this is a database for example that

2065
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:54,560
has articles that

2066
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,800
i've had published over the years and

2067
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,080
you can see here that there's

2068
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:00,560
uh tasks you know you've got

2069
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:03,199
administrator you've got browse

2070
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:04,719
you've got to create and then you've got

2071
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:06,800
deploy and you've got different options

2072
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,760
under those

2073
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,080
so what i'm going to be doing is working

2074
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,679
with ufo researchers

2075
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:13,840
just a small group of them to make sure

2076
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:14,880
i understand

2077
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:17,440
the nature of their archives and how the

2078
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:18,560
software

2079
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:21,760
can help them the best and i believe

2080
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,159
that

2081
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,840
some of what you're seeing now i'm going

2082
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:25,679
to send it essentially as is but

2083
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:27,920
empty and then of course people like

2084
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:30,560
erica luke's will be able to copy stuff

2085
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,440
undo redo clear fields sort copy and

2086
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:35,280
paste

2087
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,520
have quick views based on matching

2088
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:39,520
records unsorting records publication

2089
01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:40,320
date

2090
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,679
it the possibilities are numerous

2091
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:45,600
reports that can be generated importing

2092
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,040
and exporting data

2093
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,600
okay and i'm going to give them a base

2094
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:51,199
set of functionality to start with if

2095
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:52,320
they need more fine

2096
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:55,040
you know and you can see here that all

2097
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,719
you do is you basically click on the

2098
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,080
items on the left

2099
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,159
and then the detail comes up here in the

2100
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:02,400
mid part and then on the third pane

2101
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:05,679
you have both the original jpeg or pdf

2102
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,159
and then of course you have the text and

2103
01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:09,520
then you can have anything you want i

2104
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,960
can have as many uh

2105
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:13,120
dots that i can flip you know with my

2106
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,040
fingers or with my mouse

2107
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:16,800
and then you'll notice up here you've

2108
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,440
got um other databases

2109
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:21,440
based on what you're looking at it'll

2110
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,960
automatically show those

2111
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,800
once you have the relation set up in

2112
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,480
there and you'll notice that this

2113
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:27,840
database that i use

2114
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,640
uh covers every everything that i do

2115
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,520
down at the bottom

2116
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:33,120
administration and tasks analysis

2117
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:34,960
intelligence archaeology history

2118
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,560
arts literature philosophy religion

2119
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:38,239
political social issues science

2120
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:39,280
technology

2121
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,679
so by putting data in databases for

2122
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:42,560
years

2123
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:43,920
writing programs that go around the

2124
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:45,679
internet and scrape stuff

2125
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:48,960
and put it in there it's a very powerful

2126
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,920
tool

2127
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,600
and i'm going to be releasing these

2128
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,600
again for researchers to do it

2129
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,920
this was a quick dump when we decided to

2130
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:57,040
use a different method

2131
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,120
just putting some stuff at random

2132
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:01,520
regarding the uh tic tac case

2133
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:03,600
uh we have a dedicated module it was

2134
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,840
created uh to investigate harry reid and

2135
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:06,960
atip

2136
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:08,880
as i recall steven i think i sent you

2137
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:11,040
the presentation that was generated

2138
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:13,840
uh yeah and is this is this run on mac

2139
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:14,560
and windows

2140
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:22,630
is called download comp you'll see the

2141
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:25,360
screens in a moment it runs on

2142
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:28,800
mac it runs on your iphone it runs on

2143
01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:29,520
windows

2144
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:31,840
what it doesn't run on is android

2145
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:33,120
because we're not sure what we're going

2146
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:34,640
to do with that yet

2147
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:37,040
we can port it to android when it's

2148
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:39,280
working fine on the other platforms

2149
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:40,960
sure yeah because at that point it's a

2150
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:42,960
formality and to be honest you're going

2151
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,480
to get the most powerful experience

2152
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,159
using apple's platform

2153
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:48,560
because it's more integrated another

2154
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,080
good question somebody's asking

2155
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:52,000
is it open source i think he means is it

2156
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,840
open source as far as what information

2157
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,840
is in the database or will there be a

2158
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:56,960
select few

2159
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:00,080
ordaining the articles that are no

2160
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:02,800
no um i'm going to release a suite of

2161
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,600
tools

2162
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:05,600
to a small set of researchers like

2163
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:07,280
yourself erica luke's

2164
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:09,760
jan aldrich phillip mantle i'll go over

2165
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:11,360
their names in a moment

2166
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:13,520
and i'm going to work with them to help

2167
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:14,880
modify that software

2168
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,239
to empower them to do the right things

2169
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:20,000
whether they want to share that data or

2170
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:21,600
not that's up to them

2171
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:23,199
they'll have the ability to keep their

2172
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:26,480
stuff private but also share stuff

2173
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,840
the big thing that's going to come after

2174
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:29,600
this is workflows and that's where i

2175
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,719
have to really engage

2176
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,640
researchers like yourself we all do

2177
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:34,640
things differently in different ways

2178
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,239
and by making workflows from the data

2179
01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:39,840
that's in there you can get stuff done

2180
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:40,880
like okay

2181
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:43,440
find all the records about atip and make

2182
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:44,400
me a book

2183
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:46,320
boom here it is now you just got to

2184
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,679
clean it up and refine it

2185
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:49,440
and you've seen the results of the rough

2186
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,880
stuff that we've been doing here

2187
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:52,400
that i've kept you informed of in the

2188
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,800
last year yeah yeah it looks like

2189
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:56,480
cal has a very good system for

2190
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,080
generating content

2191
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,560
which as a content creator or somebody

2192
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,159
that has to generate content

2193
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,800
this appeals to me because let's say for

2194
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:06,400
example i was going to do a show on the

2195
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,159
cash land room incident

2196
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:10,239
this database might have pictures

2197
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:12,800
newspaper articles that i could share

2198
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:14,800
that's right for me it would be a great

2199
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:17,199
and valuable tool to have for my show

2200
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:20,800
exactly so um here is real ufo comp

2201
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:21,679
that's the name of it

2202
01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:24,239
and i started this in high school um i

2203
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,080
hope to use an apple ii computer

2204
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:29,120
but it just wasn't far enough along

2205
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:31,120
uh so as the letters show that i

2206
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:32,800
published i was giving computers to

2207
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:36,000
uh the lorenzens and researchers giving

2208
01:14:39,189 --> 01:14:37,920
them macs and stuff and doing all kinds

2209
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,199
of stuff in secret

2210
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,199
but again i'm not trying to harp in it

2211
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:43,040
but you notice i avoided one person

2212
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,760
because

2213
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:44,880
while i was working with almost

2214
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:47,440
everybody else it just didn't

2215
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:49,520
i'm just gonna let that speak for itself

2216
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:50,880
real history matters

2217
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:53,840
so on the scandals of kevin randle

2218
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:55,040
module

2219
01:15:02,870 --> 01:14:59,280
for example uh

2220
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:02,880
randall said that he uh

2221
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:05,040
kevin randle told journalist art levine

2222
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,920
and you can ask him

2223
01:15:09,110 --> 01:15:07,920
have him on your show they'll confirm

2224
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:09,120
that kevin randle told him that the

2225
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,040
roswell evidence is not compelling

2226
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,719
it's not credible and it makes him throw

2227
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:15,199
up so levine calls me and says why is he

2228
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,800
telling me this when he's got these

2229
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,320
books out and there's a special

2230
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,360
i said i don't know so you'll notice on

2231
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,560
the tab here

2232
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:24,480
in the case modules this happens to be

2233
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:25,679
just about randall

2234
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,760
there's the claim whoever makes it then

2235
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,199
there's the truth

2236
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,640
then there's stuff that allow you to

2237
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,560
verify that truth like this link

2238
01:15:36,070 --> 01:15:34,400
then there's files that support that

2239
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:36,080
truth so you get the little uh bullets

2240
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:38,320
that you can swipe you know to scroll

2241
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,800
through

2242
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:40,800
then you have ai which comes in there

2243
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,400
and shows you what it found

2244
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:45,360
then you have options options is a

2245
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:46,080
options

2246
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:49,520
which are to me

2247
01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:51,440
for example it's getting to the point

2248
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:53,360
now where the rules and ai that

2249
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:55,280
i get alerts like so-and-so seems to be

2250
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,000
trying this against you or whatever

2251
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,760
and then it it shows up in the options

2252
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:01,679
tab and it gives me a list of options

2253
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,840
you know somebody's asking so this is

2254
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,360
this going to be for

2255
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:07,199
it's not for active ufo field

2256
01:16:12,950 --> 01:16:10,000
researchers only armchair researchers no

2257
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:12,960
it is for active michael it's not a good

2258
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:13,600
idea to

2259
01:16:17,350 --> 01:16:15,520
automatically go to the negative and

2260
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:17,360
you're in my live chat you always with

2261
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:19,199
the with the guests go to the negative

2262
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,159
like ask a question but don't make

2263
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,840
assumptions let the guest answer the

2264
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,199
question

2265
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:27,920
no it um uh it's it's software for

2266
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,640
ufology not you fooligy

2267
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,400
i can't be more clear than that if you

2268
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,480
are studying ufo data

2269
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,640
credibly you're ufologist if you're not

2270
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,280
doing it credibly you're eupholigist

2271
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:41,040
that's it it's not name calling that is

2272
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:42,880
the real meaning of the word blame stan

2273
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,600
freeman

2274
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,760
if you disagree with me but there's no

2275
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,520
question that is the real meaning

2276
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:49,920
so this could be any case it doesn't

2277
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:52,960
matter i'm using a real example here

2278
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:55,840
because it's a real example uh other

2279
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:56,560
stuff here

2280
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,800
okay it has wysiwyg what you see is what

2281
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:00,159
you get no surprises

2282
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:03,280
works on ios ipad os and mac os

2283
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:06,159
the desktop version works on windows

2284
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,280
okay

2285
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:09,520
it's multi-user it learns as it goes

2286
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:11,120
along so you don't have to keep typing

2287
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:12,800
the same stuff in all the time

2288
01:17:16,229 --> 01:17:14,880
it's got another way cal i'll volunteer

2289
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,239
to try uh

2290
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:18,480
if i get a copy to try to see if uh i

2291
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:20,320
can get it to work in linux with uh

2292
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:22,480
with why the emulation layer for windows

2293
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,400
i think it'll probably work

2294
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:26,880
my guess is most things do now like

2295
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,760
before

2296
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,679
you know a lot of stuff just wouldn't

2297
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:31,840
work in linux with wine but now almost

2298
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:34,800
anything does except for super like the

2299
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:36,640
super latest and greatest games and

2300
01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:37,520
things

2301
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:40,880
right exactly yeah um it um

2302
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:45,360
has workflows basic ones we will

2303
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:47,920
uh customize those over time and they'll

2304
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,440
be you know in in

2305
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:52,320
in collaborating with other fine

2306
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,960
colleagues

2307
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,400
wonderful researchers out there and you

2308
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:56,560
know some of them uh we'll come up with

2309
01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:58,480
a workflow that we can all say hey let's

2310
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:00,080
all do it this way you know

2311
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,400
sure like send this to erica send this

2312
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:04,400
to you send this to melissa whomever you

2313
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,199
know

2314
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:07,920
uh imports and exports top file formats

2315
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,640
so of course

2316
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:10,159
if you see something here's a good

2317
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,520
question and and you should know

2318
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,440
michael runs this sky watching

2319
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,640
organization and he

2320
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:19,040
even gives people free telescopes to try

2321
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:20,159
to get people looking

2322
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:22,880
and finding ufos and things so he's

2323
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,440
asking

2324
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:25,440
the software contain options to upload

2325
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,159
live footage while actively skywatching

2326
01:18:31,990 --> 01:18:31,120
yes in fact it can be on the internet or

2327
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,000
its power

2328
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:34,880
is also it can be off the internet

2329
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,679
meaning

2330
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,520
i gave it the ability because i had to

2331
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:39,520
have it myself this was back in the days

2332
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:40,000
of palm

2333
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:43,520
pilots uh and laptop god damn you're old

2334
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:44,080
now

2335
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:49,120
you had a uh what is that other thing

2336
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:50,880
called a berry uh

2337
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:54,960
i never had a blackberry blackberry you

2338
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:56,800
no i went straight to the iphone because

2339
01:19:03,189 --> 01:18:59,440
i knew a real phone when i saw it

2340
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,199
anyway plus i knew steve was on to

2341
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,800
something in fact i saw him

2342
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:06,719
again the last time before he died

2343
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:09,360
there's photos of us together

2344
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:11,679
anyway that's another show i guess but

2345
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:12,719
um

2346
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:15,040
anyway uh back to the features got

2347
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:16,159
built-in forms

2348
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:17,760
let's say you see a ufo you want to send

2349
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,480
it to mufon send it to mufon

2350
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:22,800
in their form it's built in don't need

2351
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:23,920
their permission

2352
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:25,600
there's also our form which is much more

2353
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,440
extensive with due respect

2354
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,440
and it can go to whomever there's able

2355
01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:31,679
to store text video audio pdf office

2356
01:19:35,510 --> 01:19:33,040
files virtually anything

2357
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:35,520
yes we use containers he wants to know

2358
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,719
but what does dr

2359
01:19:40,790 --> 01:19:38,480
kevin randall think of this software

2360
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:40,800
program no let's not get him started

2361
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:42,640
he's focused on the software

2362
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:45,840
but stay on the software um it prints

2363
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,159
customizable charts and graphs including

2364
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,159
palette and color control

2365
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:52,080
it toggles between different guise based

2366
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:54,000
on the device okay which means when it

2367
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:55,520
starts up it asks you what do you want

2368
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:56,080
to do

2369
01:20:01,990 --> 01:19:59,360
have a

2370
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:02,000
single monitor or you know ipad or

2371
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:02,800
iphone

2372
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:06,320
you touch it the interface does it uh

2373
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:09,040
it optimizes itself for that space copy

2374
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:09,920
and paste between

2375
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:12,880
apps and devices okay so what if i want

2376
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:14,239
this data on my

2377
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:17,040
phone i just copy and paste it has views

2378
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:18,800
for lists tables forms it reads and

2379
01:20:21,790 --> 01:20:19,760
talks

2380
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:21,800
secure id facial recognition for

2381
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:23,120
authentication

2382
01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:25,040
after all i'd hate to see kevin randle

2383
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,480
look at my phone when i wasn't looking

2384
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:27,840
and see what i really know about him

2385
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:30,639
just kidding uh it takes dictation if

2386
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:32,000
you don't want to type anything

2387
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:34,560
you can just talk to it send mail from

2388
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:35,120
the app

2389
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,880
if you don't want to while you're

2390
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:38,320
looking at something really cool

2391
01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:40,320
in your ufo comp database you can

2392
01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:41,840
immediately do email you don't have to

2393
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,360
quit and go to another app

2394
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,199
imports and exports the web in case you

2395
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,199
want to grab stuff off there

2396
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:49,360
it supports search sorting options

2397
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,239
secure

2398
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,800
password fields generates reports etc

2399
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:53,520
the feature

2400
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:56,560
list is quite extensive um

2401
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:59,360
so the people i'm going to start getting

2402
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:00,639
this too

2403
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:03,760
and you know uh have been in the loop

2404
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,560
for a while

2405
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:06,639
have been are you of course erica luke's

2406
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,600
jan aldrich

2407
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,760
i haven't really talked to him much i

2408
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:11,120
think he's probably heard about this

2409
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,560
through mitchell acquaintances paul dean

2410
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,080
i've talked to melissa yes

2411
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:16,719
and roy neal now roy neal is somebody

2412
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:18,320
that

2413
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:19,920
almost nobody has heard of in the ufo

2414
01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:22,080
field but roy is my former

2415
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:24,080
uh roommate at apple clarus we've done

2416
01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:25,520
tons of stuff together he knows where

2417
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:27,920
all my non-alien bodies are buried and

2418
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,440
he can prove a lot of the stuff i've

2419
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:31,199
been saying it's amazing nobody bothered

2420
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:32,400
to check with him all these years

2421
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:34,000
because he's in my book

2422
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:36,320
uh meyer book but anyway he's the one

2423
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:37,199
who uh

2424
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:39,920
made the models with me i went to the

2425
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,639
bay

2426
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:43,040
area foothills to test the models to

2427
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:44,480
simulate the stuff we're going to do in

2428
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,360
switzerland

2429
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:46,960
because we didn't have you know we had

2430
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:48,239
to test the models make sure they worked

2431
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:49,040
in the mountains

2432
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:51,040
so roy knows everything roy is working

2433
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:52,560
with me on this software in this

2434
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,760
platform

2435
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,400
and so all i can say is roy is a top

2436
01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:58,239
engineer in silicon valley

2437
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:01,120
you can look at his linkedin profile uh

2438
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,120
he did the first rotoscoping on the mac

2439
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:04,639
ever that was a program called video

2440
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:05,520
graffiti

2441
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:07,760
and of course i i looked him up yeah

2442
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:09,679
yeah pretty well accomplished uh

2443
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,800
pretty well he takes no prisoners he's a

2444
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,639
bad boy and he's a badass

2445
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:16,960
very good guy i i i would give my life

2446
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,760
for him he's

2447
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:19,520
a great question and this might be

2448
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:21,199
beyond the scope of your software but

2449
01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:24,400
this is michael's specific interests

2450
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,480
can active sky watchers connect with one

2451
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,400
another live through this while sky

2452
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,320
watching together if someone in la

2453
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,880
sees the ufo heading north can that

2454
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:34,800
person signal another sky watcher for

2455
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:36,080
verification

2456
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,239
yes they can but to make that happen

2457
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:40,000
i'll need to work with people who want

2458
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:42,000
that unless i choose the protocol

2459
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:44,239
obviously something on the web is a

2460
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,120
common bridge

2461
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,159
but absolutely one of the things that

2462
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:50,400
i thought of years ago in high school

2463
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,719
when i first started to design this

2464
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:55,040
and again i did it for my own use all

2465
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:56,239
these years

2466
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:00,239
um was a simple philosophical issue

2467
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,719
i'm sorry and somebody asked peterson is

2468
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,239
in the database you know that's

2469
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,719
uh one of uh kevin cassidy and david

2470
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:08,239
wilcox fake

2471
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,000
sources the guy that said he was a

2472
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,080
ronald and ronald reagan science and

2473
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:13,760
technology advisor but he never worked

2474
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:16,239
for ronald reagan

2475
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:24,950
investigative files to the database

2476
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,440
because

2477
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,880
sometimes i want to be able to pull up

2478
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:28,480
something from my

2479
01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:31,520
past uh shows or investigation so it'll

2480
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:32,840
be in there

2481
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:39,590
again what i'm doing and erica luke's is

2482
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,880
is

2483
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,360
probably going to be the uh most uh

2484
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:45,600
intensive tester on this meaning

2485
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:48,719
i'm going to give her uh the ufo comp

2486
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:50,239
software the archive

2487
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:53,360
module it's got different modules and

2488
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:54,880
she's going to populate it with whatever

2489
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,800
she wants it's up to her and i want her

2490
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,400
to give me feedback i want her to say

2491
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,080
this works this doesn't i need this

2492
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:02,080
feature doesn't exist whatever

2493
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:04,480
i have some sample records in there a

2494
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,199
few

2495
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,520
of all different data types because she

2496
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,400
has a bunch of

2497
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,480
everything the idea is to have her then

2498
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:12,719
start uh importing the stuff

2499
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:14,960
and then have the there's a feature in

2500
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,960
the database where you can clone itself

2501
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:18,960
and then send it to whomever she'll then

2502
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:21,280
send it back to me so i can look at it

2503
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:22,800
get back to her send it back to her and

2504
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:24,400
we'll keep fine-tuning it

2505
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,679
in the meantime i'll be having

2506
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:27,600
discussions with jan aldrich who of

2507
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,000
course

2508
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:30,800
runs the wonderful 1947 project just

2509
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:32,159
getting up to speed on what they're

2510
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:33,679
doing because they've already got a lot

2511
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:35,760
of data scanned

2512
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:37,520
it needs to be optimized it could be

2513
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:39,199
done better the black vault has a lot of

2514
01:24:42,629 --> 01:24:41,120
material too but to be honest

2515
01:24:44,870 --> 01:24:42,639
it could be arranged a lot more

2516
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,880
efficiently in my opinion

2517
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:47,280
i'm a data guy library sciences guy was

2518
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:48,239
the top student

2519
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:50,080
in my school over it got the outstanding

2520
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,360
award was in

2521
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:53,040
it and boeing on the standards committee

2522
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,040
so i eat this stuff

2523
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:58,320
um i love it sounds this listen

2524
01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:00,960
uh cow knows i i just started to try to

2525
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:01,440
write

2526
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:04,320
a book or books and i'm having a real

2527
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:05,040
hard time

2528
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,320
because you know like i had to stop to

2529
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,960
go find a picture on the internet and

2530
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:12,480
then i got a check to make sure it's

2531
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:14,320
copyright free so i could use it and

2532
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:15,199
then

2533
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,560
and i'm just doing all of this with like

2534
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:23,280
microsoft word and it's not good

2535
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,840
so i think this could really help a

2536
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:27,760
person who wants to write a book spit it

2537
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,159
out

2538
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,880
really fast a lot faster right yeah in

2539
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:32,719
the workflows it does several things for

2540
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,360
example

2541
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,840
uh we used to have before like i showed

2542
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:38,400
you the press information sheets

2543
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:41,600
um reduce an important

2544
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:44,719
issue on to a single sheet of paper

2545
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,800
so that you everybody can understand the

2546
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:48,560
who what where why when and how if you

2547
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,000
don't communicate all that you don't

2548
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,920
have clear communication

2549
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:53,679
okay so we did that with kennedy that's

2550
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,400
a very tough thing to do

2551
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:58,800
and that's what the software does so

2552
01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:00,480
let's say you've got the bottom line in

2553
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:01,840
your database

2554
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:04,800
on whatever the workflows with one click

2555
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:05,920
or one touch

2556
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,600
depending on your device will allow you

2557
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:09,600
to instantly do whatever okay make it a

2558
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:09,920
book

2559
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,960
kick out a rough article send a memo to

2560
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:14,800
so and so to warn them

2561
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,960
whatever the workflows are going to vary

2562
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,400
from person to person there will be a

2563
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:20,320
set of standard workflows that we will

2564
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,440
all agree

2565
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,520
this is how we should do it you know

2566
01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:25,199
that that's another thing about science

2567
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,679
is you have agreed upon methodologies

2568
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,920
so sure somebody else is a good question

2569
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,880
that's kind of

2570
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,719
what you're talking about now though is

2571
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:34,480
they're asking is the database only

2572
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:35,520
local

2573
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:37,440
only use in your own instance of the

2574
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:39,679
application or is the database

2575
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:41,600
shared between multiple instances of the

2576
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:43,040
app or could it be shared between

2577
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:44,719
multiple researchers

2578
01:26:48,470 --> 01:26:47,199
yeah it can be both it has to be both um

2579
01:26:50,149 --> 01:26:48,480
first of all there are times where you

2580
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,159
need to collaborate and share it

2581
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,960
we'll use uh you know tcp and web

2582
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,639
protocols for that

2583
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,560
there will also be things like i have a

2584
01:26:59,590 --> 01:26:58,560
firewall here which certain people have

2585
01:27:02,629 --> 01:26:59,600
access to

2586
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:02,639
no one else does there's also individual

2587
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:05,440
like um i realized i needed to take my

2588
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:08,080
data out with me in the field as a kid

2589
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:09,920
there was no internet so i had to store

2590
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,520
it somewhere so

2591
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:14,400
it can do all of that and you determine

2592
01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:16,960
what you want to do with that data

2593
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:20,560
the uh so we will be using the internet

2594
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:23,120
as the common platform for shared data

2595
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:23,840
like that

2596
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:27,520
there's also uh the ufologyufoology.org

2597
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:29,120
website because again

2598
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:31,520
ufology ufoology is a platform it

2599
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,320
separates

2600
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:34,560
ufology from you fooligy doesn't matter

2601
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:35,920
who the researchers are

2602
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:37,920
doesn't matter what the cases are but

2603
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:39,440
each thing it solves

2604
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:42,080
is verifiable and it's a binary or we

2605
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,960
don't bother

2606
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,880
there's most ufo cases you can't do

2607
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,560
anything with you can't prove it

2608
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:48,639
happened one way or another

2609
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,520
well we don't we can't run stuff on that

2610
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:53,520
the way we can run on the binaries

2611
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:55,440
like the hill case when you take the

2612
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:57,120
hipparco satellite data

2613
01:28:01,590 --> 01:28:00,159
compare it to the fish map game over now

2614
01:28:02,229 --> 01:28:01,600
it's a question of will the ufo

2615
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:02,239
researcher

2616
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,000
tell you the truth that's a different

2617
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,400
issue where this workflow also helps

2618
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,719
steven is like dealing with the media

2619
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:10,239
in the last year and a half since i've

2620
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:12,080
been back in the us secretly it wasn't

2621
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:12,800
public

2622
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,480
working on a lot of this stuff i did

2623
01:28:17,270 --> 01:28:16,239
have meetings with some producers and

2624
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,280
network types

2625
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,840
or was in the loop of people who had

2626
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:21,120
those meetings

2627
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,840
and they said history discovery these

2628
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:24,719
networks that

2629
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:27,360
we know this is [\h__\h] but until we

2630
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:29,120
syndicate it for another three years or

2631
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:30,320
so we're not going to

2632
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,560
entertain exposing it and i have a real

2633
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,679
problem with that

2634
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:35,520
so one of the reasons and a lot of the a

2635
01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:36,719
lot of people don't know but some of

2636
01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:38,400
these media companies they make money on

2637
01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:39,440
both ends

2638
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:42,639
that's right promote hoax ufo material

2639
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,000
for a while

2640
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:46,800
get it into syndication drain every

2641
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:47,520
ounce

2642
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,760
every penny of being on the side that

2643
01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:52,239
the story is real or factual or correct

2644
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,560
or

2645
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:55,120
really happened yep and then once the

2646
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:56,480
bubble bursts

2647
01:29:02,229 --> 01:28:59,679
then they make another set of things

2648
01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:02,239
entertainment experience exposing that

2649
01:29:07,110 --> 01:29:04,080
it was all [\h__\h]

2650
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:07,120
yes and it's time to revisit a dynamic

2651
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:08,719
that i don't know many people know the

2652
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,159
story but it's a true story i would

2653
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:11,920
encourage you to ask bob keviat about

2654
01:29:14,950 --> 01:29:12,400
this

2655
01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:14,960
i'll give you his number he'd be a great

2656
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,639
guest on your show

2657
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,400
when we did world's greatest hoaxes

2658
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:19,679
secrets finally revealed

2659
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:21,920
for fox fox was so happy with that

2660
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,080
result it was the only special ever

2661
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,760
to take out all those top mysteries in

2662
01:29:29,350 --> 01:29:27,840
one episode and people were like well

2663
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:29,360
how can fox do it they're eating their

2664
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:29,840
own

2665
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,520
babies because they promoted a lean

2666
01:29:35,669 --> 01:29:33,520
autopsy is real quote unquote

2667
01:29:36,870 --> 01:29:35,679
they didn't but you know they there was

2668
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:36,880
some hype in there

2669
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:38,719
and then kiviata the same producer takes

2670
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:41,280
it out and kiviata of course did a later

2671
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,880
special in england with uh

2672
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,719
help of philip mantle who solved that

2673
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,520
case the uh second autopsy film

2674
01:29:51,189 --> 01:29:49,600
and mantle is is a top researcher i

2675
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:51,199
admire him very much i'm going to share

2676
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:52,719
this software with him

2677
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:55,600
he's a great archive make a long story

2678
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:56,480
short

2679
01:30:00,070 --> 01:29:58,320
fox was going to start a paranormal

2680
01:30:01,590 --> 01:30:00,080
programming division

2681
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:01,600
and bob kevia was going to be head of

2682
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:03,679
that but a certain bozo named chris

2683
01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:04,400
carter

2684
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,400
you may have heard of him he objected to

2685
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:08,480
that and he threatened to take x-files

2686
01:30:11,669 --> 01:30:08,880
away

2687
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,679
and kill the movie so um it never

2688
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:14,000
happened and then 911 happened later and

2689
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:15,840
i was in europe by this time and we were

2690
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:18,159
we had done two paranormal productions

2691
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,199
and we were gonna

2692
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:21,440
separate fact from fiction but it got

2693
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:23,199
killed by 911 because they said until

2694
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:24,800
aliens are bringing down skyscrapers we

2695
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:25,840
don't care anymore

2696
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:27,520
and then of course carter threatened

2697
01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:29,679
x-files he had penis envy

2698
01:30:35,189 --> 01:30:32,800
over uh um

2699
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:35,199
bob kiviat's the real deal chris carter

2700
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:35,840
is

2701
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,880
just a sci-fi nut conspiracy type

2702
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:43,120
so this is a revisit of that because

2703
01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:44,320
once this stuff is there

2704
01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:46,239
and people are using the software the

2705
01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:47,600
next time the new york times writes a

2706
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:48,080
stupid

2707
01:30:52,070 --> 01:30:49,679
article that hypes i'm just going to

2708
01:30:55,750 --> 01:30:52,080
press a button and let the fun begin

2709
01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:55,760
that's the idea okay so that's why i

2710
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:56,400
have that

2711
01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:59,760
options tab that obvious

2712
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:01,280
i know here so so here you're saying

2713
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:02,719
that you're going to be giving this to

2714
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,800
some beta testers including me to try

2715
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,400
out and to help refine it

2716
01:31:09,990 --> 01:31:08,080
but when do you see it being like a

2717
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:10,000
public download where anybody can

2718
01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:13,120
can give it a try well

2719
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,199
first thing is i hope to get it out in

2720
01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:16,800
the public um

2721
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,560
in everybody's hands when i say

2722
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:19,920
everybody i mean where they can just

2723
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:21,120
download the damn thing

2724
01:31:24,229 --> 01:31:23,360
in whatever version it'll be beta first

2725
01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:24,239
because we're in

2726
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:27,679
alpha right now um it will be hopefully

2727
01:31:32,550 --> 01:31:28,880
by the summer

2728
01:31:34,470 --> 01:31:32,560
um but as i talked to jan and others

2729
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,480
even you stephen if you tell me john

2730
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:36,320
smith up the street's a good guy too i'm

2731
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,760
that's fine

2732
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:40,400
i the idea is not to not to play hey

2733
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:42,000
we've got a secret we've got some tools

2734
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:43,360
you don't have we're special

2735
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:46,080
no the idea is as you know when you roll

2736
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:46,880
out software

2737
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:49,440
especially when you're winging it based

2738
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:51,760
on what you think your understanding is

2739
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:54,400
of your peers you got to start somewhere

2740
01:31:57,030 --> 01:31:55,360
and i know

2741
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:57,040
that you do need things like a date and

2742
01:31:59,990 --> 01:31:58,400
a time and a time stand

2743
01:32:01,669 --> 01:32:00,000
and a record number field i know you

2744
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:01,679
need some of these things regardless of

2745
01:32:06,149 --> 01:32:02,480
even if you're

2746
01:32:08,709 --> 01:32:06,159
a ufoologist but um once we have it

2747
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:08,719
out then it'll be open as a free

2748
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:09,600
download

2749
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:11,679
official beta version and then we'll

2750
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,000
freeze it and then it goes everywhere

2751
01:32:17,669 --> 01:32:16,080
and by then it's been populated with

2752
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:17,679
data by the testers

2753
01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:19,840
i'm releasing some of my archives too

2754
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:22,080
that way it's on the internet and local

2755
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:24,320
and the ultimate testing will be for the

2756
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:26,000
public when they are

2757
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:28,080
downloading and uploading things on the

2758
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:29,760
internet or storing it locally

2759
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:31,280
or let's say you and i are doing

2760
01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:33,120
something i just sent it to you

2761
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,920
you know by touching this icon um so

2762
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:37,440
that's the idea

2763
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:40,159
and um so it'll be by the summer only

2764
01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:40,960
because

2765
01:32:44,870 --> 01:32:43,360
the software is going out in their hands

2766
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:44,880
in february

2767
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,320
and that's right around the corner

2768
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:48,239
somebody's asking if you can integrate

2769
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:51,440
wikileaks to the database i don't know

2770
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:53,679
oh yeah yeah we can integrate anything

2771
01:32:56,310 --> 01:32:54,719
in fact

2772
01:32:58,470 --> 01:32:56,320
let's say that you have an already

2773
01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:58,480
existing gnarly system that doesn't need

2774
01:33:03,110 --> 01:33:01,520
fixing let's not break it you can even

2775
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:03,120
use this software

2776
01:33:07,510 --> 01:33:06,480
as a eye candy front end for anything on

2777
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:07,520
the back end

2778
01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:09,920
yeah i i i have an interest in this

2779
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,440
because i think it could really help me

2780
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:13,679
like even just make slides for my shows

2781
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:15,920
or because all of the stuff that

2782
01:33:19,430 --> 01:33:17,600
uh you guys have seen that cal has

2783
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:19,440
brought to the show it's all been

2784
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:20,480
created with

2785
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:22,800
with this or in one form or another

2786
01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:23,600
right

2787
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:26,560
yes yeah and again i'm going back to the

2788
01:33:30,229 --> 01:33:28,239
slides here i try to make everything

2789
01:33:31,510 --> 01:33:30,239
pixel perfect um i realize there's some

2790
01:33:33,030 --> 01:33:31,520
hebrew there but i use different

2791
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:33,040
languages i'm not going to apologize for

2792
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,840
that

2793
01:33:40,709 --> 01:33:37,040
um anyway

2794
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:40,719
so uh again these are screenshots i

2795
01:33:44,229 --> 01:33:42,800
could easily open the databases scroll

2796
01:33:46,149 --> 01:33:44,239
through this you would just see article

2797
01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:46,159
after article after article

2798
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:47,840
again look at the covet thing this is a

2799
01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:49,600
quick way to come up to speed every day

2800
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:52,080
on the major reporters so i have a

2801
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:52,800
screen

2802
01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:55,600
where i follow ufo groups so all the

2803
01:33:59,430 --> 01:33:56,960
groups that chant hana

2804
01:34:00,550 --> 01:33:59,440
runs for example they appear as a tab on

2805
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,560
the screen i haven't

2806
01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:02,080
included that screenshot here but it

2807
01:34:04,070 --> 01:34:03,520
allows me to quickly see what she's

2808
01:34:06,149 --> 01:34:04,080
doing

2809
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:06,159
she manages a lot of groups it sure

2810
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:08,159
beats opening up each [\h__\h] window one

2811
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:09,040
at a time

2812
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:12,000
hello you know so at the very least

2813
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:13,440
we're going to have

2814
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:16,560
things that look better

2815
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:17,440
we're going to have things that look

2816
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:20,480
like real apps and you know again

2817
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:23,520
um we're just able to do all this and

2818
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:25,199
your this stuff here i've shared with

2819
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,080
you i know it's a long winded intro

2820
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:29,840
but it gives you the background of how

2821
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:31,840
this is possible what was really going

2822
01:34:34,950 --> 01:34:33,600
on at the time all these years

2823
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,960
and that's why i have no patience for

2824
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,719
the [\h__\h] out there that people just

2825
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:38,159
make up about me they weren't even

2826
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:41,760
born that time exactly you know

2827
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:44,080
and so randall and all those other guys

2828
01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:45,440
wendell mikey horn

2829
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:47,600
not wendell he's not here they all have

2830
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:49,360
to address all this stuff because i was

2831
01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:49,840
there

2832
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:52,239
i did it it's all here so i'm releasing

2833
01:34:54,870 --> 01:34:53,360
this stuff

2834
01:34:56,870 --> 01:34:54,880
and then i'm going to take a look at the

2835
01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:56,880
original documents like this publication

2836
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:58,960
do i keep it or do i donate it i don't

2837
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:00,719
know i'll decide

2838
01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:03,119
um i'm a human i like to have some

2839
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,320
things here and there

2840
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,400
i do miss these people but this shows

2841
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:08,320
you how deep we were

2842
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:10,320
look at that stephen versus what

2843
01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:11,520
everyone else was doing

2844
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:13,840
this was as good as a ufo investigator

2845
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:15,840
could get my first question as a guy in

2846
01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,400
high school

2847
01:35:19,750 --> 01:35:18,320
to lens stringfield was why didn't you

2848
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:19,760
at least have a professional artist

2849
01:35:22,629 --> 01:35:20,320
there

2850
01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:22,639
like a police artist does for a victim

2851
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:23,360
of a crime

2852
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:26,560
hello yeah that's pretty weak

2853
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,800
yeah yeah it is and god bless him his

2854
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:30,320
heart was in the right place and that's

2855
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,239
when i first heard about jesse marcel

2856
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:34,560
and all that uh len stringfield had

2857
01:35:38,229 --> 01:35:35,520
heard about that

2858
01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:38,239
him as well and wrote about it um the

2859
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,639
myth is that it was all freeman not true

2860
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:42,880
so anyway this is a smoking gun and this

2861
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:43,920
is courtesy of al

2862
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:47,760
reid a man who um heard about my work

2863
01:35:51,830 --> 01:35:49,920
and got in touch with me and he said the

2864
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,840
reason i want to jump back into this

2865
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:53,760
cal is because you're doing science and

2866
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:55,600
forensics yes i was majoring in it

2867
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,000
until i met a guy named steve jobs so

2868
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:00,000
here it is we were doing this

2869
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:02,480
and this graphic is relevant in the

2870
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:03,040
roswell

2871
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:06,560
updated book because we were able to use

2872
01:36:11,109 --> 01:36:08,320
anatomy to prove that these witnesses

2873
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:11,119
were lying we found out for example

2874
01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:13,760
that the index finger moves a certain

2875
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:14,239
way

2876
01:36:20,629 --> 01:36:18,560
aliens don't have a prehensile thumb

2877
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:20,639
so this would move differently this

2878
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:22,639
stuff would behave differently you know

2879
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:23,600
if it were real

2880
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:25,440
based on what they described and we're

2881
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,920
able to use anatomical physics as much

2882
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:28,880
as you can in a

2883
01:36:32,950 --> 01:36:31,280
theoretical mechanical reconstruction to

2884
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:32,960
prove that this guy really didn't cut

2885
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:33,920
open anything

2886
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:36,560
he's full of [\h__\h] and that's why we had

2887
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,199
that

2888
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,400
detailed things to not to nail them

2889
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,360
down in the minutia because when a

2890
01:36:46,709 --> 01:36:45,199
witness describes only this

2891
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,719
he can get away with a lot of things

2892
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:48,320
well it had four fingers and webbing

2893
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,920
between it

2894
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:51,440
but when he's getting down to details

2895
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:52,880
like this yeah yeah it looked like that

2896
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:53,760
and then

2897
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,440
you can nail him because the devil's in

2898
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:57,280
the details and that's exactly what we

2899
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:57,920
did

2900
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,000
and it's all original stuff from the 70s

2901
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:02,000
and 80s

2902
01:37:05,109 --> 01:37:03,920
it's never been on the internet but

2903
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:05,119
people who know me

2904
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:08,400
you know know this stuff so um in this

2905
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:09,520
book

2906
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:12,560
there's a chapter on all the major

2907
01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:14,080
mysteries what i think i know what i

2908
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:15,600
think i've learned

2909
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:16,880
i've been doing this for a reason at

2910
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,520
least one right so all this is related

2911
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:21,440
because life is one big relational

2912
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:22,400
database

2913
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:23,920
the challenge is to find all the

2914
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:26,400
connections optimize them and use them

2915
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:27,119
and

2916
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:30,239
you know exploit them in ways that are

2917
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:31,760
positive that push the human race

2918
01:37:34,629 --> 01:37:32,560
forwards

2919
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:34,639
and that's what i am trying to do and

2920
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:36,960
have devoted my life to and that's why i

2921
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,560
can pull this stuff out

2922
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:40,159
and i'm glad that all my archives from

2923
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:42,960
around the world including the 11 tapes

2924
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,440
of

2925
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:45,040
bob gimlin chasing me trying to get my

2926
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,639
footage back um

2927
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:48,719
have all survived and there's i got

2928
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:49,920
years of stuff coming out

2929
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:52,320
that's why i have a 500 book deal i've

2930
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:54,719
got enough material for 500 books

2931
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:58,080
you know yeah there you go

2932
01:38:01,669 --> 01:37:59,840
you know you're being able to write one

2933
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:01,679
at this point

2934
01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:03,679
it's just um again i heard your first

2935
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:05,360
one is the hardest and then they get

2936
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:06,400
easier after that

2937
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:09,920
so you know um i just know that there's

2938
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:12,080
no relation to how successful a book is

2939
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:12,719
versus

2940
01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:15,760
how much work it takes to get it done um

2941
01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:17,840
i never thought my roswell book would be

2942
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:19,520
successful at all

2943
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:22,000
um and i did it only in six weeks

2944
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:23,760
because i was disgusted

2945
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,400
that there was no book coming out by any

2946
01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:27,840
publisher telling the truth

2947
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:30,560
and we had solved roswell earlier uh and

2948
01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:31,679
i thought well

2949
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:33,040
they told me if you can get it to me in

2950
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:34,480
six weeks you got a deal i said okay

2951
01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:35,840
i'll just write it was one big brain

2952
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:36,639
dump

2953
01:38:39,910 --> 01:38:38,480
so the reason it has a fast pace is

2954
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:39,920
because i didn't have a lot of time

2955
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:41,440
i didn't have the time to write the book

2956
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:43,199
i'm doing now diary of the last

2957
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,679
investigator because now i can take my

2958
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:47,360
time and i've got the diaries and all

2959
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:49,040
the original notes and they're all in

2960
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,400
there as exhibits

2961
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,159
and nobody can argue with any of this

2962
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,320
it'll be clear that whoever does is

2963
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:56,880
in denial and lying and so it's all

2964
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:57,600
coming out

2965
01:39:02,229 --> 01:39:00,400
and um it's time i share this stuff one

2966
01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:02,239
of the reasons i was able to do

2967
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:04,400
uh stuff on terrorism and write all this

2968
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:05,520
stuff is because

2969
01:39:09,030 --> 01:39:07,040
over the years on these different things

2970
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:09,040
like china russia 10 000 articles and

2971
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:09,679
all that

2972
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,960
because i've been following this for

2973
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:13,119
years i helped

2974
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:16,159
play a small part in ending communism

2975
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:19,360
in russia in 91

2976
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:21,440
i'm surprised top investigators didn't

2977
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:22,880
figure out that

2978
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,560
when i was there it was also the billy

2979
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:26,000
meyer thing

2980
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:27,920
there was some synergy there i mentioned

2981
01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:29,679
who trained me what i did everything

2982
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:31,840
even photos of me in east germany at the

2983
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:33,600
time it's all coming out

2984
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,199
uh because i'm back here i'm not doing

2985
01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:37,520
that stuff anymore all my archives are

2986
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:38,400
here

2987
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:40,080
hundreds and hundreds of videos over the

2988
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:41,600
years of the country

2989
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,840
again it's all coming out um i don't

2990
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,520
have a life except this stuff

2991
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,480
except now i'm in love and uh hopefully

2992
01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:50,400
this is one will work out and uh

2993
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,840
i'm trying to figure out how to to do

2994
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:54,719
both

2995
01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:58,960
knuckles type gets very complicated

2996
01:40:02,229 --> 01:40:01,520
when the woman enters the the uh the

2997
01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:02,239
equation

2998
01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:03,840
like you you know i remember being

2999
01:40:06,550 --> 01:40:05,119
single and just being able to do

3000
01:40:08,470 --> 01:40:06,560
anything that you want

3001
01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:08,480
and then that woman comes along and you

3002
01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:12,480
gotta make a lot of compromises

3003
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:13,760
yeah i'm glad you're gonna i'm glad

3004
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,280
you're gonna start sharing this software

3005
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:17,280
i'll give a report on it after i get to

3006
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:19,199
check it out and try it out and maybe

3007
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,040
i'll try some sample

3008
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:23,280
you know do some slides that i'll use in

3009
01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:24,880
the show or something

3010
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:27,920
yeah and somebody did ask um why not

3011
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:29,679
just make it a website instead of a

3012
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,719
binary

3013
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:32,560
which is a valid question i guess you

3014
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:33,679
could you could just make this

3015
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:36,080
cloud-based i suppose then anybody could

3016
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:37,520
access it

3017
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:39,679
that's a great browser that's a great

3018
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,679
question and i think whoever asked that

3019
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,600
i can't see anything i've got three

3020
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:45,360
monitors showing other things now

3021
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:48,159
but um it's it is going to be web-based

3022
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:49,040
uh but

3023
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:51,360
to get it web-based we wanted to be

3024
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:53,119
working at the local level first and

3025
01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:53,920
that's why we're

3026
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,199
doing the android thing at the end um

3027
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,360
there's functionality in this that

3028
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:01,440
apple right now is the only one who can

3029
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:02,880
really deliver some of that

3030
01:41:07,189 --> 01:41:04,800
and i don't care who delivers the

3031
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:07,199
functionality i want it delivered

3032
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:10,320
so this is a controlled explosion for

3033
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:11,679
lack of a better term a controlled

3034
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,800
rollout meaning

3035
01:41:15,910 --> 01:41:14,800
it's going to start local and then we do

3036
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:15,920
the tests where

3037
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:18,639
the same database is on a web server

3038
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:19,440
absolutely

3039
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,440
then you interact yeah i figured you

3040
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:22,800
could make it you can oh

3041
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,400
absolutely you can post it on the web

3042
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:26,159
one way or the other i could figure it

3043
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:27,360
out how to do it even just

3044
01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:29,840
like yeah but then talk to it or

3045
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:31,440
something and have it

3046
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,080
somebody's system with it open sure

3047
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:35,760
right but the one thing it does that

3048
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:38,320
no other app does is if you want to grab

3049
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:38,880
it and go

3050
01:41:43,350 --> 01:41:41,600
locally you can meaning it'll run

3051
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:43,360
locally it does not need the internet

3052
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:44,960
now if you don't put it it is great

3053
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:46,320
because i could be at the cabin with no

3054
01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:48,159
internet and still be able to work on

3055
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:48,800
something

3056
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:50,880
you know right you know people yeah i

3057
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:52,800
like local software i'm not a big fan of

3058
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,320
cloud anything

3059
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:57,040
it's it's there's no cloud it just means

3060
01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,880
somebody else's computer and i don't

3061
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,239
like that i like

3062
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:02,480
i like all the power in my own hands you

3063
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:03,760
know i agree

3064
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:07,119
i like a mixture of both um i use the

3065
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:08,719
double and pandering meaning

3066
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:11,360
the architecture is a dna architecture

3067
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,760
distributed network architecture

3068
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:16,560
dna also means deoxyribonucleic acid of

3069
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:17,360
course

3070
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:20,639
so but i have a dna built in a itdna

3071
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:23,600
so it can either run locally individual

3072
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:24,560
monoi mono

3073
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:26,320
or uh you know distributed where

3074
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:28,080
everybody's seeing it because

3075
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:30,560
i envision over time for example stephen

3076
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:32,159
i assume you'll be doing your show 20

3077
01:42:35,430 --> 01:42:33,119
years from now

3078
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,440
that uh you'll have something where you

3079
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:37,360
can hit a button in the workflow on your

3080
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:37,760
end

3081
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,360
and all of a sudden you're letting your

3082
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,880
audience see whatever

3083
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:42,480
you know that right now would take

3084
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,280
several steps to to do the same thing

3085
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:47,440
i'm just going through the slides again

3086
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:49,360
real quickly to go back to the ufo comp

3087
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,239
thing

3088
01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,239
um i want to point out a couple

3089
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:54,719
interface features real quickly

3090
01:43:02,390 --> 01:42:58,000
in case they're not obvious to people

3091
01:43:05,109 --> 01:43:02,400
just going through here here we go okay

3092
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:05,119
the buttons down on the left that are

3093
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,679
red

3094
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:07,840
it has three levels of security there's

3095
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:09,199
a yellow red

3096
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:13,520
and green white is used for normal text

3097
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:14,000
of course

3098
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:16,400
so in this coronavirus database using

3099
01:43:19,669 --> 01:43:17,760
this protocol

3100
01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:19,679
because i was getting data from china

3101
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,000
chinese servers they didn't know it

3102
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:23,920
some of the stuff came in as red because

3103
01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:25,360
it had to be uh

3104
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,320
hunted down or it contradicted what the

3105
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:30,000
official line of the communist chinese

3106
01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:31,040
party was

3107
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:33,360
the yellow stuff means uh it needs to be

3108
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:34,480
verified

3109
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:36,080
call it a gray basket thing the white

3110
01:43:39,910 --> 01:43:37,679
stuff is is a fact

3111
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:39,920
so i was able to prove that uh and i did

3112
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:41,760
a show on this that the chinese knew

3113
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:42,560
about the

3114
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:45,679
virus outbreak in months earlier than

3115
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:46,880
they admitted and that they were

3116
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:48,639
actually infecting people in hotels

3117
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:49,440
protesters

3118
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:52,159
to get them sick and kill them now um

3119
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:53,040
over here

3120
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:55,199
the inner face buttons you got plus

3121
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:56,880
which means you can add records

3122
01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:58,800
you've got a arrow which means you can

3123
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:01,679
refresh if you think it's not updating

3124
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:03,520
um you can force a refresh you've got

3125
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:05,360
backwards forwards previous next buttons

3126
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:06,480
you've got search

3127
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:09,280
you can do single search preset searches

3128
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:11,440
are multiple search criteria

3129
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,560
for all practical purposes unlimited um

3130
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:16,239
then you've got this button here which

3131
01:44:19,990 --> 01:44:18,400
is going to give you different options

3132
01:44:21,430 --> 01:44:20,000
like how do you want to view it do you

3133
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:21,440
want to send it to somebody do you want

3134
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:22,400
to print it

3135
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:24,000
whatever the workflows will vary from

3136
01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:26,239
person to person but also there'll be a

3137
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:27,440
course set

3138
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:29,920
then of course the last uh icon there

3139
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,719
after that

3140
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,400
is the minus one that's to delete a

3141
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,320
record that uh

3142
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,800
uh two icons the globe will take it to

3143
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:38,480
the internet anywhere you want to go

3144
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:41,600
okay built-in browser and then um you've

3145
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:41,920
got

3146
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:44,880
um and it's based on apple's webkit then

3147
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:45,840
you've got um

3148
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,600
which is the industry standard then

3149
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:49,840
you've got lists like list view

3150
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,880
a view for 21.5 inches my monitors are

3151
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:53,920
21 and a half

3152
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,320
inches each as i joke with you steven

3153
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:57,840
the other day when you told me you got a

3154
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:59,119
27 and a half

3155
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,040
i have to now scale all this [\h__\h] up so

3156
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:03,199
that it is full screen on yours

3157
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:06,159
uh so that you can so thanks a lot for

3158
01:45:10,149 --> 01:45:06,800
the extra

3159
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:10,159
work yeah um so

3160
01:45:16,140 --> 01:45:13,600
um another screen here about the getting

3161
01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:16,150
back to the software

3162
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:24,550
yeah again original documents are in the

3163
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:25,679
case modules

3164
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:27,440
so when you see the kevin scandals of

3165
01:45:31,430 --> 01:45:28,800
kevin randle module

3166
01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:31,440
the roswell module whatever module it is

3167
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:32,960
they're all different cases you've got

3168
01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:34,560
the original documents in there

3169
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:37,119
to prove it up nothing is left as he

3170
01:45:39,750 --> 01:45:37,920
said she said

3171
01:45:41,109 --> 01:45:39,760
otherwise there's no point in doing it

3172
01:45:43,030 --> 01:45:41,119
um

3173
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:43,040
that's why you have this stuff in there

3174
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:53,830
yeah so when you use the iphone

3175
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:56,159
or a smartphone you'll see the middle

3176
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:56,880
tab here

3177
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,480
okay because the interface obviously is

3178
01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:00,480
different based on the device

3179
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:03,520
so um this thing expands

3180
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,199
uh like this based on your screen width

3181
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:09,360
um it's up to you you have full control

3182
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:11,440
over it you can see here that

3183
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:14,800
under the uh admin tasks that we're

3184
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:16,080
going to start this with because we need

3185
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:16,560
to

3186
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:19,920
got basic things like

3187
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:22,239
copy copy all cut copy undo redo clear

3188
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:23,119
field and paste

3189
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:25,760
so what i could do is click on this um

3190
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:26,320
uh

3191
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:29,199
you know image and i could hit a button

3192
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:30,560
and send it to somebody

3193
01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:32,080
that would be a workflow issue or i've

3194
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:34,719
got these you know options here

3195
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:37,600
again you've got uh sport built in we

3196
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:38,960
can add more

3197
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:41,280
so in the interface you'll probably be a

3198
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:43,440
line below the stuff that's built in

3199
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:45,920
that reflects uh more buttons below

3200
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:47,280
there are slightly different color that

3201
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,040
will be your custom workflows

3202
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:51,199
that we've programmed for you because

3203
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:53,199
you host a show so your workflows are

3204
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:54,000
going to be different than

3205
01:47:03,350 --> 01:46:58,560
say uh anyone who doesn't for example

3206
01:47:08,229 --> 01:47:05,990
you've got again text version pdf

3207
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:08,239
version files versions of this

3208
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:09,679
uh you can sort everything

3209
01:47:13,750 --> 01:47:11,920
alphabetically and

3210
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:13,760
you'll notice again the same universal

3211
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,520
nav bars and stuff because after doing a

3212
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:16,800
lot of tests

3213
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,520
there's a set that is you know peanut

3214
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:21,119
butter across everything

3215
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:22,960
again you'll have file tabs that will

3216
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:25,920
take you inside things

3217
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:27,760
um you know that are very

3218
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:29,600
straightforward claim truth

3219
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:32,400
we have red yellow and green as far as

3220
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:33,040
red

3221
01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:36,719
no you better be careful yellow caution

3222
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,000
trust but verify um green

3223
01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:42,080
it's a fact you know and that's why we

3224
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:44,159
have the green alien smiling it's truth

3225
01:47:51,669 --> 01:47:48,320
the red one he's full of you know what

3226
01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:51,679
um so i'm really excited about this

3227
01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:55,119
because it's great to release stuff

3228
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:57,199
out there i know how long i have to

3229
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:58,800
worry about oh it's classified or

3230
01:48:03,270 --> 01:47:59,760
whatever

3231
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:03,280
and um to just be back and and have

3232
01:48:07,109 --> 01:48:05,440
all the archives having survived their

3233
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:07,119
treks around the world literally

3234
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:09,040
also in storage in different parts of

3235
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:10,080
the world so they were secretly

3236
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:11,280
recovered

3237
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:14,320
and put back and now we're getting it

3238
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:16,000
all in there and and

3239
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,840
yeah we have a relationship on top of

3240
01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:20,159
all that uh one other thing too

3241
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:23,600
uh one of the modules we're releasing uh

3242
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:26,639
in february is epitomized by this

3243
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:29,840
here um there's been an

3244
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:33,119
issue that has come up over nick pope

3245
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:34,880
uh here's a document from the ministry

3246
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:36,159
of defense

3247
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,080
that seems to indicate that nick pope

3248
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:39,920
wasn't what he claimed to be

3249
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,920
and i know that when i was secretly in

3250
01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:43,040
england getting

3251
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,440
a ufo video for bob caveat before the

3252
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:47,520
british ministry of defense could get it

3253
01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:49,920
i beat them to it they never saw it and

3254
01:48:53,669 --> 01:48:51,520
i sent it to kiviat i

3255
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:53,679
did a inquiry into nick and found out

3256
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:55,040
that things were a bit different than

3257
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:55,600
what the

3258
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:58,639
literature indicates so philip mantle

3259
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,400
has asked me to put this out there

3260
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,239
and there is a module in the new

3261
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:04,719
software that basically

3262
01:49:08,709 --> 01:49:07,360
will ask people hey what about this and

3263
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,719
it goes out to wherever

3264
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:11,280
is relevant and tries to find out in

3265
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:12,880
this case it's going to the uk

3266
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:13,599
government

3267
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:16,159
and various intelligence agencies in the

3268
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,280
u.s

3269
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:19,840
to find out what is the truth about this

3270
01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:20,639
um

3271
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:22,960
it needs to be run down i would hope

3272
01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:23,840
that nick

3273
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:25,360
or anybody making these claims would

3274
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:26,800
just come on and answer them straight up

3275
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:27,280
but

3276
01:49:31,109 --> 01:49:29,440
yeah and uh listen alien scientist is

3277
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:31,119
here and he just had him on

3278
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:34,239
he just had nick pope on his show i i'm

3279
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:35,840
going to invite nick pope on my show i

3280
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,199
don't know if he'll come i've invited

3281
01:49:40,870 --> 01:49:39,360
him several times before and he didn't

3282
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,880
um you know and i don't blame him for

3283
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:42,800
that it's more channel alien sciences

3284
01:49:45,350 --> 01:49:43,360
has

3285
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:45,360
much bigger channels so if you send it

3286
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:47,119
to him and he has him on again i'm sure

3287
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:48,880
he'll ask him about it

3288
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:52,000
well i don't need nix i mean of course

3289
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:52,560
one

3290
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:54,719
way is investigating this is to just ask

3291
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:56,800
nick but i had the same problem and i'll

3292
01:50:01,830 --> 01:49:58,800
tell you a true story real quickly

3293
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:01,840
years ago when i was in europe

3294
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:04,800
um not only did i run the trap on nick

3295
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:05,440
but

3296
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,760
and again i got that footage of that ufo

3297
01:50:10,550 --> 01:50:09,599
that the couple had filmed and it was a

3298
01:50:13,270 --> 01:50:10,560
military

3299
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:13,280
aircraft so i got it before the mod got

3300
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:13,599
it

3301
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:15,280
and that's when i was running the trap

3302
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:17,040
on uh phil mantle

3303
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,520
or um nick pope and then uh sent the

3304
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:21,280
video to bob keviat

3305
01:50:28,229 --> 01:50:25,040
who i went to get it for in secret

3306
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:28,239
now i asked nick pope to be

3307
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:30,960
in a conference i was going to sponsor a

3308
01:50:36,310 --> 01:50:32,320
former intelligence

3309
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:36,320
community people to talk about ufos

3310
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,400
he told me he wouldn't be part of that

3311
01:50:42,070 --> 01:50:40,480
conference because he was retiring

3312
01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:42,080
and what i've noticed is that nick has

3313
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:43,760
managed to in his retirement

3314
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,719
appear on big shows you know so he's not

3315
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:48,400
really retired he's selectively retired

3316
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:49,760
that's his choice

3317
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:53,760
but um it when he turned it down i

3318
01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:55,199
wasn't surprised

3319
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:58,239
because as you know i've run the trap on

3320
01:51:02,550 --> 01:51:00,480
a very interesting question that randall

3321
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:02,560
and everybody avoided even friedman

3322
01:51:05,830 --> 01:51:04,719
why does israel's mossad spend no time

3323
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:05,840
on ufos

3324
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:07,760
it's hard to avoid any jewish scientists

3325
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:09,679
especially after world war ii

3326
01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:12,239
reverse engineering anything alien you

3327
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:14,639
can't and secondly mossad or any

3328
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:17,280
other intelligence agency would spend

3329
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:19,760
all their resources getting the secret

3330
01:51:24,149 --> 01:51:22,960
meta materials or that aluminum foil

3331
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,159
that couldn't be bented

3332
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:26,800
bent with a 16-pound sledgehammer they

3333
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:29,199
would be all over it they would steal it

3334
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,880
nothing has happened because it never

3335
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:32,480
happened so

3336
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:34,960
until the mossad question is asked it is

3337
01:51:39,910 --> 01:51:36,639
being avoided

3338
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:39,920
and that is where that

3339
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:44,159
is where this is going i'm going to use

3340
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:46,000
the algorithm to run the trap on the

3341
01:51:51,510 --> 01:51:48,480
nick pope document as a test

3342
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:51,520
to try to chase down classified

3343
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:53,760
ufo-related issues with the intelligence

3344
01:51:57,430 --> 01:51:55,440
and military establishment

3345
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:57,440
i have to wait for example until the

3346
01:52:02,629 --> 01:51:59,440
summer for the ufo task

3347
01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,639
farce to release its report on the tic

3348
01:52:05,669 --> 01:52:03,840
tacs

3349
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:05,679
before that report comes out i have a

3350
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:07,199
date with the inspector general on the

3351
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:08,960
issue i've had to wait

3352
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,800
because the pandemic to move those

3353
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:12,880
things forward including

3354
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:15,760
sec possibilities against ttsa as you

3355
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:16,320
know

3356
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:17,760
they've been on hold like keviad's

3357
01:52:23,589 --> 01:52:20,239
lawsuit since the pandemic

3358
01:52:25,189 --> 01:52:23,599
yeah so everything's on hold even even

3359
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:25,199
the legal system

3360
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:28,560
exactly so all this is being done so i

3361
01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:30,159
want to be clear i'm not accusing nick

3362
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:31,679
pope of anything

3363
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:34,639
i'm simply i've been asked as a person

3364
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:35,920
who supposedly

3365
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:38,880
is somebody in this field to raise this

3366
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:39,520
issue

3367
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:42,400
to call it out publicly i know that if

3368
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:44,960
this were me i i would nip it in the bud

3369
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:48,719
uh that's just me i am now going to

3370
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:51,360
use the software to run the trap on this

3371
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:53,280
because it needs to be tested

3372
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:55,360
and if it weren't nick pope it would be

3373
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:56,400
some other document

3374
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:58,960
i was actually going to use ttsa it was

3375
01:53:02,870 --> 01:52:59,920
redundant

3376
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,880
but it could test the software code now

3377
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,080
i'm not going to i'm going to use the

3378
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:06,080
nick pope document it'll take some time

3379
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,159
and i'll continue on the ttsa stuff

3380
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:10,480
through the new ufo task force

3381
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:12,800
we've never had a administration where

3382
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:14,159
the head of the task force

3383
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,760
is now the vice president and someone

3384
01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:17,520
else is running it

3385
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:19,679
yeah right anyway this will be fun to

3386
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,040
see what the government

3387
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:24,080
says about their own subject yeah

3388
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:26,400
in the fall and i want to have enough of

3389
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,440
this ready

3390
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:29,280
so that when they do respond i can just

3391
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:30,560
hit a few buttons

3392
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:33,280
and let the digital missiles fly as they

3393
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:33,840
say

3394
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,400
and that's where this is all heading uh

3395
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:38,159
the reason i got awards years ago for

3396
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:39,760
some of my weapons designs and things

3397
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:40,000
like

3398
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:43,840
that is because i literally reduced um

3399
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:47,840
the act of of acting to one mouse click

3400
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,880
uh that saved a lot of time

3401
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:53,199
um and that's what i want to do here but

3402
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:54,960
you have to have a whole lot of stuff

3403
01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:58,480
under uh you know behind the scenes to

3404
01:54:01,270 --> 01:54:00,159
make it so that it's one mouse click

3405
01:54:02,550 --> 01:54:01,280
away

3406
01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:02,560
well i'm glad you could bring us an

3407
01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:04,159
update on the software and all those

3408
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:05,679
kind of things i think uh

3409
01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:07,360
i think we're coming up on two hours

3410
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:08,960
here so i think we're gonna

3411
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:12,400
jump off here and uh and we'll see what

3412
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:12,960
happens

3413
01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:15,040
in so far as maybe having you and

3414
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:16,320
randall all together

3415
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:19,040
if if he would agree i would host it

3416
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:19,599
even though

3417
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:22,880
all this makes me uncomfortable but i

3418
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:24,560
know people want to see it so

3419
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:27,040
listen i'll i'll i'll try to make it

3420
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:28,960
happen we'll see what will happen

3421
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,560
well i appreciate that i just want

3422
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:32,159
people to know that

3423
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:34,639
i didn't not show up i was there

3424
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,440
secondly

3425
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:37,520
i've been waiting to debate for years

3426
01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:39,280
i've already debated and many lost he

3427
01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:41,119
doesn't endorse frank kaufman anymore

3428
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:43,119
he did at the time we debated he was

3429
01:54:47,990 --> 01:54:44,639
with kauffman on the show

3430
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:48,000
they lost abc tv matter of record

3431
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,760
i'm telling you because he didn't i was

3432
01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:51,440
surprised when he recounted our history

3433
01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:52,960
he didn't go into those details i would

3434
01:54:55,589 --> 01:54:54,560
have as a matter of here's what happened

3435
01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:55,599
it didn't

3436
01:55:01,270 --> 01:54:59,599
and it's just to get to the truth um

3437
01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:01,280
i wouldn't feel awkward or being in the

3438
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:03,119
middle because you host a show and your

3439
01:55:07,109 --> 01:55:05,280
show is called truth seekers

3440
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:07,119
if i'm on your show and you catch me

3441
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:08,560
saying something that isn't whatever

3442
01:55:11,830 --> 01:55:10,080
call me out please

3443
01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:11,840
uh it should be true with anybody and i

3444
01:55:14,790 --> 01:55:13,360
know you well enough in the short time

3445
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,800
i've known you that you're a credible

3446
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,320
straight-up guy so

3447
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:18,000
it is a little disappointing well i'm

3448
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:19,520
trying

3449
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:22,239
you are you are and you know your stuff

3450
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:24,080
uh i've been impressed with some of the

3451
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:25,679
minutia you know and

3452
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,040
i excited over your altos project and

3453
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:31,040
yeah me too maybe someday i'll finish it

3454
01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:32,320
i just now i've gotten

3455
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:35,599
uh you know this is just the way things

3456
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:37,520
work with software development like

3457
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:41,440
i fixed a two-page list of bugs and then

3458
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:44,560
and then like another two-page list of

3459
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:45,679
bugs arrived

3460
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,760
you know like i thought i got through it

3461
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:49,119
and we're going to release it soon

3462
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:49,520
though

3463
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:51,440
this and he's talking about my linux

3464
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:53,199
project which is

3465
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:55,040
basically linux on steroids it's 100

3466
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:56,560
gigabytes of software

3467
01:56:01,589 --> 01:55:59,599
all in one download basically and yeah

3468
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,599
we can talk about that another time but

3469
01:56:04,390 --> 01:56:02,960
i want to thank you for taking the time

3470
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:04,400
to do this tonight and

3471
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,560
we'll see about having you back either

3472
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:08,239
with or without mr randall

3473
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:11,679
for various topics yeah um actually i'd

3474
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,239
like to

3475
01:56:15,430 --> 01:56:14,400
if you're open to it i know i've i asked

3476
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:15,440
is how the blue but

3477
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:17,599
um i will i debated whether to show you

3478
01:56:20,790 --> 01:56:19,040
some kennedy imagery

3479
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:20,800
because that's another can of worms but

3480
01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:22,480
yeah

3481
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:26,239
we did our study

3482
01:56:30,229 --> 01:56:28,719
and the longest show i did on it solving

3483
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:30,239
it was five hours live

3484
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:33,920
and i won so uh i'm just saying i can

3485
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:34,400
prove

3486
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,760
in your show they hit me with everything

3487
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:40,080
uh how he was killed and anybody can go

3488
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:40,960
check it

3489
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:42,480
otherwise it wouldn't be a fact all

3490
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,320
factors you know i think i've never done

3491
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:45,840
i've never done a show on the kennedy

3492
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,880
assassination and

3493
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:49,440
and i know that uh that's just a can of

3494
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,480
worms to open

3495
01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:52,000
because people are so passionate one way

3496
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:53,360
or the other but yeah we could do that

3497
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:54,239
we could have yeah

3498
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,440
let's do it and what i'll do is i'll

3499
01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:57,280
i'll take you through the frames i'll

3500
01:57:01,270 --> 01:56:59,280
i'll get you this a brooder film

3501
01:57:03,109 --> 01:57:01,280
uh digital frame by frame copy the best

3502
01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:03,119
one i'll show you exactly how it went

3503
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:03,520
down

3504
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:05,920
have everybody join in the chat room and

3505
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,440
let's do what we did in england years

3506
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:09,280
ago at the 40 and times unconvention

3507
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:11,360
where i took the audience through it

3508
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:14,480
and uh you know did it in fact um

3509
01:57:22,149 --> 01:57:18,719
it was uh i guess i don't have it here

3510
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:22,159
um anyway amazon's had uh for years a

3511
01:57:26,390 --> 01:57:24,639
two-part video where we sure and i'm

3512
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:26,400
gonna i'm gonna get in touch with alien

3513
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:27,599
scientists because he has some

3514
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:29,520
information that you probably would want

3515
01:57:32,950 --> 01:57:31,119
to look at he's completely

3516
01:57:35,109 --> 01:57:32,960
some of the the science of israeli

3517
01:57:36,870 --> 01:57:35,119
scientists and what they're studying

3518
01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:36,880
so yeah so listen friends i want to

3519
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:38,560
thank everybody for joining us cal i'm

3520
01:57:43,750 --> 01:57:40,239
going to play us out here with our new

3521
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:43,760
outro and then uh just stand by

3522
01:57:49,589 --> 01:57:48,000
well let me uh on there we go

3523
01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:49,599
yeah so i want to thank my guests

3524
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:51,199
tonight kalkorf i want to thank every

3525
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:52,000
one of you guys

3526
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:55,040
that showed up uh in the live chat and

3527
01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:56,639
especially those who had some excellent

3528
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:58,400
questions about the software that he's

3529
01:58:02,070 --> 01:57:59,440
developing and

3530
01:58:03,910 --> 01:58:02,080
we'll be releasing shortly until next

3531
01:58:06,149 --> 01:58:03,920
time friends my name's steven cambion

3532
01:58:20,530 --> 01:58:06,159
good night and god bless all of you

3533
01:59:29,500 --> 01:58:20,540
stand by cal

3534
01:59:31,190 --> 01:59:29,510
[Music]

3535
01:59:45,020 --> 01:59:31,200
[Applause]

3536
01:59:45,130 --> 01:59:45,030
[Music]